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(February 2016)

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TI
tikitaka
Not entirely similar, but an anomaly none the less, does anyone remember when El Classico started at about 5:15 a year of two back, so the first 15 minutes were not allowed to be shown on British TV due to the 3-5:30 rule? The studio just discussed the game and had one of the pundits watching it on an iPad.

Could another thing in this category be the Angelus on RTE? Travelling to Ireland as a kid, it'd be the one thing you'd never, ever understand, why they were showing a random collection of bells and people looking sad before the news. Laughing
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
Going back to Sky's EPG rules which are the cause of these late-night BBC Three shows, they are also why Channel 5+24 up until a couple of weeks ago had a split schedule between DTT and DSAT. DTT had a lot more Teleshopping during the day, while DSAT had extra repeats of the Aussie soaps and TV movies because Sky have quotas on the amount of Teleshopping they allow in the Entertainment section of the EPG. A couple of weeks ago it started to mirror the daytime Channel 5 schedule, with a small amount of Teleshopping in the morning and the soaps replacing the news bulletins.
PL
plymouthbloke1974
Not entirely similar, but an anomaly none the less, does anyone remember when El Classico started at about 5:15 a year of two back, so the first 15 minutes were not allowed to be shown on British TV due to the 3-5:30 rule? The studio just discussed the game and had one of the pundits watching it on an iPad.


The Saturday football blackout is between 14:45 and 17:15. La Liga have 17:00 kickoffs so they couldn't join the live action until 15 minutes into the game.

I do believe Sky managed to persuade the Spanish FA to shift the start times though, although I could be wrong?
CH
chinamug

Could another thing in this category be the Angelus on RTE? Travelling to Ireland as a kid, it'd be the one thing you'd never, ever understand, why they were showing a random collection of bells and people looking sad before the news. Laughing


It's a programme like any other. It could be dropped at any time, it's really only on now for traditions sake more than anything else. There have been times in the past when it wasn't broadcast because of live coverage of an event. Irish Open Golf comes to mind when it used to run late almost every year in the 80's. Having said that it's very useful as whole generations of Irish TV viewers could catch the headlines on BBC1 or UTV before turning over to Six-One.
HC
Hatton Cross
If ever I'm at home listening to RTE Radio 1 via Sky, I have to switch the sound down at the start of Ronan Collins show at 12, as the Angelus bells drive the dogs crazy!

To be fair RTE One, have updated the vt played over the bells with what is basically an extended version of those people's idents ITV had off Red Bee for a couple of weeks before they got some new ones a few years ago.

Apart from the occasional shot of a church, there is very little blatant religious imagery during the clangs from the bell tower.
BU
buster
dvboy posted:
The Moyles Podcast was probably used as cheap filler more than anything.

No, I remember it being mentioned on air that was the reason. It was on at an odd time, replacing 40 or so minutes of a longer live show


Just checking the programmes website, and it looks like they used to do 30 minutes of the podcast Friday mornings at 4am. I don't know if the schedule slots were the same back then, but these days that would take 30 minutes out of the Early Breakfast show.


Yes back in those days JK & Joel seemed to have some sort of agreement to not start presenting live on Early Breakfast at 4am. Initially they did a feature called "My Tunes" at the start of the show to disguise it, later they put the podcast repeats in which not only helped with their lie in, but satisfied the BBC Trust requirements and allowed them to cut the 3am "OneClick" speech shows to 30 mins which probably saved a few bob. It wasn't just Moyles, it was quite a lot of the early podcasts that got repeat slots (so you had Scott Mills Daily, once a week, as an omnibus!).

When Greg James started on earlies the night time schedule was reshuffled, the podcast repeats were binned and early brekkie went back to 4am which is how its been ever since.

OneClick was a bit of an oddity actually - launched in 2004, as the name suggests was primarily intended for online listening as it was on at 3am, so kind of like the podcast situation in reverse. I don't think the shows were ever made available as a podcast though and eventually they were shortened before fizzling out.
NW
nwtv2003
Family Late I think is a good example of this. When Family Channel rebranded to Challenge TV in 1997, Family Late was on between 12.30am and 5am showing Family Channel programmes, obviously not peak time Family entertainment, one assumes this had to be shown at some point before the rights expired, which they did for good in September 1998, when Challenge reruns were put in its place. The brand altogether was ditched within 18 months. Worth nothing Family Late did not appear on the Digital feed for Challenge TV initially, the broadcasting hours were 6am to 12am, yet on analogue it was 5pm to 6am.

Although not a programme, who remembers EBN (European Business News) ? On Cable this channel was 24 hours a day, on Satellite it used to broadcast in the downtime of Trouble and Bravo between 6am to 12pm. The channel merged into CNBC in January 1998, which at that time was broadcasting 24 hours on satellite, 6am to 12pm slot carried on. When Trouble expanded its broadcasting hours in April (when TCC ended), they moved the CNBC 6am to 12pm slot to Challenge TV, however this had gone within six months. An educated guess would say this would probably be another contractual obligation.
JA
james-2001
When BSB was taken over by Sky, the MarcoPolo feed of Sky News had to opt out occasionally to "Sky Arts" to show programmes that the BSB Now channel were contracted to show.
BR
Brekkie
The Health Lottery on C5 might tick this box - thought it might disappear once Viacom took over but it's still there. Wonder if it was written into the takeover deal.
WH
Whataday Founding member
The Health Lottery on C5 might tick this box - thought it might disappear once Viacom took over but it's still there. Wonder if it was written into the takeover deal.


I would imagine so, although an advertisement rather than a programme, along with all the Daily Star/Express advertising which inflated the value of the channel.
TI
tikitaka
If ever I'm at home listening to RTE Radio 1 via Sky, I have to switch the sound down at the start of Ronan Collins show at 12, as the Angelus bells drive the dogs crazy!

To be fair RTE One, have updated the vt played over the bells with what is basically an extended version of those people's idents ITV had off Red Bee for a couple of weeks before they got some new ones a few years ago.

Apart from the occasional shot of a church, there is very little blatant religious imagery during the clangs from the bell tower.


I believe they removed all religious imagery about five years ago, IIRC.

Not entirely similar, but an anomaly none the less, does anyone remember when El Classico started at about 5:15 a year of two back, so the first 15 minutes were not allowed to be shown on British TV due to the 3-5:30 rule? The studio just discussed the game and had one of the pundits watching it on an iPad.


The Saturday football blackout is between 14:45 and 17:15. La Liga have 17:00 kickoffs so they couldn't join the live action until 15 minutes into the game.

I do believe Sky managed to persuade the Spanish FA to shift the start times though, although I could be wrong?


There's still a game on at 5:15, but I believe they move better games and more profitable games to the 7:30 slot, that one's normally the one on Sky I believe. (i.e this week it's Ath. Bilbao vs Sociedad at 5:15 and Ath. Madrid vs Villarreal, the top of the table clash at seven).
PL
plymouthbloke1974
Is the kick off at 17:00 or at 17:15 though? That's what Sky were trying to convince them to change...

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