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(June 2007)

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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
dvboy posted:
My EPG is fine on Sky and Freeview as far as ITV1 is concerned. CITV is messed up though on Freeview.

Unless I post again in 5 minutes, assume Glitterball is on.


Yes, as Murphy's Law dictates, soon as I post about it, it corrects itself.
Didn't think it was worth expanding on, just your standard EPG ITV issue then. Smile
:-(
A former member
Five:
Has just Shown a OFCOM Statement: and also said Sorry
BR
Brekkie
623058 posted:
Five:
Has just Shown a OFCOM Statement: and also said Sorry


Did they actually say "sorry" though - OFCOM can't actually force them to apologise, it's a "statement of findings" rather than an "apology" which is broadcast.


Also, have the BBC had to do one for Blue Peter?
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A former member
Full apology on Five website I think that what there said:


I take it that this mean House is there biggest rated programme on Five?
RO
rob Founding member
TV Broadcasters slammed by Ofcom:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1275845,00.html
DI
digiperson
BBC suspends all competitions as part of ''action plan'': http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a66553/bbc-suspends-all-competitions.html

EDIT: More here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/07_july/18/thompson.shtml

digiperson
PE
Pete Founding member
The list of errors on that page is shocking. Worst of all appears to be a pre-recorder show on 6music that ran competitions which were impossible to enter and did so continually until a new editor arrived and put a stop to it.
BR
Brekkie
rob posted:



I hate the stance OFCOM (and ICSTIS) are taking upon the moral high ground.


Hindsight as they say is a wonderful thing, but the truth is people have been questioning these competitions since they first started yet the regulators have done virtually **** all to monitor them despite complaints from the public dating back a couple of years.


And the comparison to phoning for a pizza is pathetic - I'm sure more people on a day to day basis will be pissed off if their pizza doesn't arrive than if they enter a competition but don't get picked to play.
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A former member
You've got a good point there, for years people have been saying that the quiz channels, and the phone ins were a big con, but hardly anything was done about it.
BR
Brekkie
What annoys me is that they - and the press - are acting outraged on our behalf, but really is is a case of "told you so".
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A former member
from the BBC news http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6913665.stm

nice to hear the truth form him!

Quote:
ITV chairman Michael Grade has said he would be "surprised" if a review of his company's use of premium-rate telephone lines gave it "a clean bill of health".

He is awaiting the outcome of an audit ordered after complaints of deception by shows such as GMTV and The X Factor.

Mr Grade told MPs there were "great" pressures, but said it had been a shock to learn that some people "do not know that there is a line you do not cross".

MPs are focusing on public confidence in broadcasting after recent scandals.

These have involved the BBC, Channel 4 and Five as well as ITV's services.

Some cases centred around viewers being invited to dial premium-rate lines for competitions they stood no chance of winning.

Others saw revelations of misleading editing by broadcasters or cases of deception where events were not accurately portrayed.

'Misbehaviour'

Mr Grade, who moved to ITV from the BBC in January, described cases of misleading editing as "misbehaviour" that the TV industry had to overcome.

These were "dishonest judgements made at differing levels in the day-to-day editorial processes", he told MPs.

Mark Byford
Mr Byford was "stunned" at the six cases which emerged, he told MPs
He said however staff felt, "the show doesn't go on if it means deceiving the viewers" - even if this meant a blank screen.

And he described "a whistle-blowing policy", which had been put in place at ITV, as having been "very, very useful".

Mr Grade gave evidence to the House of Commons Culture, Media and Sport select committee alongside his director of programming, Simon Shaps.

In cases where staff felt they had been pressured by their bosses to deceive viewers, they "know they will be supported by Simon and myself if it comes out and they're fired", Mr Grade added.

"Trust the audience and if it all collapses on-air, so what - it's not the end of the world, but we've retained our integrity."

'Zero tolerance'

Also appearing before MPs was Mark Byford, the deputy director general of the BBC.

The corporation recently announced an independent inquiry would consider the "faking" of competition results on six programmes, including Comic Relief, Sport Relief and Children in Need.

Liz Kershaw
One MP could not understand why DJ Liz Kershaw was still on-air
Committee chairman John Whittingdale said he was concerned about a "serial deception" by BBC 6 Music's Liz Kershaw show, where production staff pretended to be quiz entrants on several occasions when the programme was pre-recorded.

Mr Whittingdale asked why Kershaw remained on-air when Mr Byford had admitted three senior staff had been suspended in connection with the other deceptions.

"The judgement made at the moment is that Liz Kershaw continues broadcasting on 6 Music but the investigation continues," Mr Byford said.

Mr Byford frequently responded to questions by urging the committee to await the outcome of the inquiry, saying he did not wish to pre-empt its findings.

However, he said the BBC had "an absolute zero tolerance of this happening in future".

"We recognise and absolutely believe this is a very serious situation. It can't happen again and we'll act properly."

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Meanwhile, Channel 4 and Five are to work together on a code of best practice for all independent producers in the wake of the incidents.

Five said it was reviewing its relationships with TV companies, as well as its contracts and processes "to ensure viewers can have total faith in the broadcaster".

Channel 4 has also announced new clearance procedures for promotional materials.
MA
markstewart
Brekkie Boy posted:
What annoys me is that they - and the press - are acting outraged on our behalf, but really is is a case of "told you so".


There should really be an investigation into these mucky newspapers really - almost all of them are misleading about 99% of the time. You can read a full story in the Guardian, then go to The Sun and have it twisted so much that only sprinkles of the truth remain. Then they have the nerve to tear the BBC to shreds. Pah!

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