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BR
Brekkie
Jake posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
Asa posted:
Nice, clean animating graphics. Can’t find any way to switch easily between matches on my Samsung app though, that seems like an omission. In theory could things like picture in picture and split screen be possible too?


Not worth developing for only five days though.

It'd be a nice feature for their larger sport offering.

Yes, their navigation during the US Open was terrible.
DV
DVB Cornwall
CRYBOU had ad break at 1923 ish in build up, This prematch ad break on BURMCI seems identical to that one.
HA
harshy Founding member
Keeps on buffering this is not good .
JA
Jake
harshy posted:
Keeps on buffering this is not good .

No problems here, running both streams without issues.
BR
Brekkie
Crashed for me just a few minutes before kick-off. Back in time to see their clearly non-award winning graphics.
UK
UKnews
harshy posted:
UKnews posted:
Jon posted:
So you’re solution is to “too may sports channels” is more sports channels? And to take that to it’s logical conclusion we’d have sports channels for most competitions so therefore even money needed for subscriptions. Doesn’t make a lot of sense really.

Exactly. Unless all you want to watch is - for example - Premier League football and only Premier League football, then a stand alone subscription service won’t save you any money. If they lost all the rights, the existing rights holders wouldn’t reduce their prices enough to cover the subscription cost of such a service - they could end up selling it as an add on.

Since 2001 you’ve needed two subscriptions to watch all the Premier League games broadcast in the UK. As the number of games shown live has grown - from 60 per season before 2001, to over 200 now - it was inevitable the Premier League would want to have at least two rights holders to keep prices up. They’d likely have done so even if they hadn’t - in effect - been forced to.

I get the frustration that a third subscription is now needed to see all the Premier League games shown live in the UK, but it could be a lot worse. If you haven’t had Amazon Prime before you can get their games as part of a free trial. If you have, then you can pay £5.99 for a months subscription. If you’ve already got Prime then it’s not costing you anything extra, it’s available across multiple platforms, so why complain?

If anything it’s now easier to pick and chose which subscriptions you have. Each of the broadcasters now have some sort of contract free option* where you can take a channel for a month (or less). Some do mean you’ve got to have a certain service with certain providers, but if that content is that important to you then you make that choice. Alternatively you wrangle deals each time your contracts are up and switch providers if needed.

(*BT Sport the most tricky here, but on EE it can be added on a month by month basis, with or without the option to cast it to a TV.)

Yeah but you will be there sat in a control room getting all the games in 4K UHD HDR HLG whilst the end user is paying to see stutter vision at 1080p25

The control room I’ve sat in most most recently has very few EPL feeds passing through it. Those that do are in 1080i25.


If I am in a control room I’m working, not watching football, whatever the resolution, dynamic range and colour space of the feed. I’m not sure what you think working in an MCR is like?

I’ve only ever seen UHD HDR at home.

2 out of the 3 UK broadcasters of Premier League games stream all their games at 50p, one of those does one game per day in UHD SDR and one now does all (when they’ve one game per day) of theirs in UHD HDR.
BR
Brekkie
This Opta Prediction thing is annoying already.
NW
nwtv2003
Absolutely no issues watching either game tonight. I was surprised to see adverts at the end of the first half in the Palace/Bournemouth match, but to be fair the amount of adverts are far less than Sky or BT.

Other than that, not much sticks out, it feels very BT/BBC tonight.

It’ll be interesting to see how it goes down tomorrow night. Certainly the Merseyside Derby and United/Spurs will prove popular. Fingers crossed Amazon have the infrastructure in place to cope with demand.
RO
rob Founding member
No problems on my Roku this evening. Picture quality has been very impressive.
SW
Steve Williams
UKnews posted:
Since 2001 you’ve needed two subscriptions to watch all the Premier League games broadcast in the UK. As the number of games shown live has grown - from 60 per season before 2001, to over 200 now - it was inevitable the Premier League would want to have at least two rights holders to keep prices up. They’d likely have done so even if they hadn’t - in effect - been forced to.

I get the frustration that a third subscription is now needed to see all the Premier League games shown live in the UK, but it could be a lot worse. If you haven’t had Amazon Prime before you can get their games as part of a free trial. If you have, then you can pay £5.99 for a months subscription. If you’ve already got Prime then it’s not costing you anything extra, it’s available across multiple platforms, so why complain?


The thing is, as well, when it was just on Sky your options to get Premier League football was Sky or nothing, whereas now you can get some Premier League football at a minimal cost, whether that's through BT in Virgin's main package or through Amazon like tonight. Obviously if you want it all you have to pay for it all, but most people don't want it all - a lot of viewers would probably be happy enough with one match a week on BT. And as mentioned, there's loads more football, Sky Sports have about double the matches they did when it started, and while you miss matches that are on BT or Amazon, you used to miss matches that weren't even televised.

When I first got multi-channel in 2004 I subscribed to Sky Sports and also paid fifty quid a year for Prem Plus, through NTL. Now obviously the subscription prices have gone up but I'm now getting BT as part of my package on Virgin and there are more matches in Sky Sports so in real terms I'm probably getting more than I used to for less.

harshy posted:
No I just want to see PLTV with Matchday Live, Fanzone and all it’s great coverage from IMG Sports Media!


I don't want to see that, really, I don't really like the idea of the Premier League providing their own coverage because it doesn't seem to suggest it's very impartial. I know the broadcasters aren't going to slag off the Premier League that much in case it jeopardises future rights deals but they are at least one step removed from the league itself. As opposed to the PL saying every match is fantastic.
HA
harshy Founding member
It’s not it’s IMG Sports Media in association with Premier League Productions it’s so good it even goes out to ships and planes...
HA
harshy Founding member
UKnews posted:
harshy posted:
UKnews posted:
Exactly. Unless all you want to watch is - for example - Premier League football and only Premier League football, then a stand alone subscription service won’t save you any money. If they lost all the rights, the existing rights holders wouldn’t reduce their prices enough to cover the subscription cost of such a service - they could end up selling it as an add on.

Since 2001 you’ve needed two subscriptions to watch all the Premier League games broadcast in the UK. As the number of games shown live has grown - from 60 per season before 2001, to over 200 now - it was inevitable the Premier League would want to have at least two rights holders to keep prices up. They’d likely have done so even if they hadn’t - in effect - been forced to.

I get the frustration that a third subscription is now needed to see all the Premier League games shown live in the UK, but it could be a lot worse. If you haven’t had Amazon Prime before you can get their games as part of a free trial. If you have, then you can pay £5.99 for a months subscription. If you’ve already got Prime then it’s not costing you anything extra, it’s available across multiple platforms, so why complain?

If anything it’s now easier to pick and chose which subscriptions you have. Each of the broadcasters now have some sort of contract free option* where you can take a channel for a month (or less). Some do mean you’ve got to have a certain service with certain providers, but if that content is that important to you then you make that choice. Alternatively you wrangle deals each time your contracts are up and switch providers if needed.

(*BT Sport the most tricky here, but on EE it can be added on a month by month basis, with or without the option to cast it to a TV.)

Yeah but you will be there sat in a control room getting all the games in 4K UHD HDR HLG whilst the end user is paying to see stutter vision at 1080p25

The control room I’ve sat in most most recently has very few EPL feeds passing through it. Those that do are in 1080i25.


If I am in a control room I’m working, not watching football, whatever the resolution, dynamic range and colour space of the feed. I’m not sure what you think working in an MCR is like?

I’ve only ever seen UHD HDR at home.

2 out of the 3 UK broadcasters of Premier League games stream all their games at 50p, one of those does one game per day in UHD SDR and one now does all (when they’ve one game per day) of theirs in UHD HDR.


How am I suppose to know if I can’t get a job in one!

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