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Sky win 5 packs 126 matches - BT 2 packs 42 matches p s. (January 2014)

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Michael
In theory the rights should be of lower value than 2010/14 considering it's likely no games in Russia will kick off later than 5pm


On about a par with 2002 then? (adjusting for inflation)

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DV
DVB Cornwall
Couple of points,

1. It seems that under the current terms applicable to these rights the bar on one broadcaster holding all of them has expired. The FAPL could sell all the rights to one licensee. The bar on this would need to be formally re-applied for it to take effect for 2016-9, I'd expect a row either way, which could see the courts getting involved and a potential delay.

2. The option of an 8pm Sunday slot could be offered, I've heard that the FA is keen to avoid the slot being dominated by fixtures from France, Italy and Spain internationally at the time, especially as it's primetime in the US. The value of the US rights to the FAPL is being questioned with England's poor WC2014 performance. NBC are reported to be concerned.
RD
rdd Founding member
Couple of points,

1. It seems that under the current terms applicable to these rights the bar on one broadcaster holding all of them has expired. The FAPL could sell all the rights to one licensee. The bar on this would need to be formally re-applied for it to take effect for 2016-9, I'd expect a row either way, which could see the courts getting involved and a potential delay.


I'd imagine that even though the legal bar has expired, that the Premier League would have no real interest in reverting back to the 1990s situation whereby Sky told them how much they were willing to pay (with a modest increase from the previous contract) and they took the money, knowing there was no other pay-TV broadcaster likely to come along and that ITV and the BBC would never have the cash to outbid Sky.

Having two broadcasters in the mix since 2007 has seen the Premier League rights value explode and ensures there are at least two bidders for the rights next time around. I think it would take an extraordinary bid from one of the bidders for the lot for the Premier League to sell the entire lot to one bidder and I'd imagine the rights will be divided into packages again next time around.
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2. The option of an 8pm Sunday slot could be offered, I've heard that the FA is keen to avoid the slot being dominated by fixtures from France, Italy and Spain internationally at the time, especially as it's primetime in the US.


That would be another fixture out of the traditional Saturday 3pm window and another in the slow move, which I am convinced will eventually happen, towards all or almost all Premier League fixtures being played outside the 3pm window.
RD
rdd Founding member
duplicate post.
SW
Steve Williams
1. It seems that under the current terms applicable to these rights the bar on one broadcaster holding all of them has expired. The FAPL could sell all the rights to one licensee.


That expired ages ago, I think it was only the 2007-10 rights sold like that. It was a stipulation of the Premier League last time that no broadcaster could buy more than 116 matches but that was something the Premier League themselves did off their own back and they could sell them all to one broadcaster if someone came in with an enormous offer. Unlikely they will, though.

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DV
DVB Cornwall
A friend who is in touch with these matters speculated to me that weekday matches not being covered by a broadcaster, when no other PL matches are being broadcast, might be allowed live or very near live on the relevant clubs own in house pay channels from 2016. The circumstances being rare but the possibility might see some 1500 Saturday matches moved to accommodate broadcast. This move might stimulate clubs not operating their own channels to invest in such an operation.
BR
Brekkie
Presumably those without channels would be free to strike deals with other broadcasters.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Presumably those without channels would be free to strike deals with other broadcasters.


As I said this is purely slightly informed speculation, I personally doubt that any such arrangements would go that far.
SW
Steve Williams
A friend who is in touch with these matters speculated to me that weekday matches not being covered by a broadcaster, when no other PL matches are being broadcast, might be allowed live or very near live on the relevant clubs own in house pay channels from 2016. The circumstances being rare but the possibility might see some 1500 Saturday matches moved to accommodate broadcast.


I don't understand this. There's only a handful of Premier League matches on weekdays in any case, half a dozen full programmes (where other matches are being broadcast) and then those that are rescheduled due to cup games or bad weather. You're only looking at about half a dozen a season, surely. And there'd be little chance of any matches being moved from Saturday 3pm to midweek because there won't be time to play them because the big teams (the ones who already have TV channels) are already playing more or less every midweek.

Sky already have the rights to 55 minute edits of every non-live Premier League match at 10pm on the day they're played, including midweek games, and the club channels can show them from midnight. The benefit of showing them "very near live" seems pretty negligible.
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Jon
A friend who is in touch with these matters speculated to me that weekday matches not being covered by a broadcaster, when no other PL matches are being broadcast, might be allowed live or very near live on the relevant clubs own in house pay channels from 2016.

In one respect I can see this happening, it makes sense if the clubs want to offer the games. The infrastructure is probably there and there are feeds of the game are too. On the other hand why not let BT, Sky and others fight it out for an 'everything else' package? All those extra Premier League games regardless of the quality have got to add value to any subscription based service so would be sort after.
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This move might stimulate clubs not operating their own channels to invest in such an operation.

I suspect for most sticking them on the online subscription services they all seem to run would be the most cost effective option with those smart TV apps you're so fond of being launched by different clubs to allow viewing on TVs.
Presumably those without channels would be free to strike deals with other broadcasters.

The problem there would be it could undermine the Premier League main broadcast partnerships.
I don't understand this. There's only a handful of Premier League matches on weekdays in any case, half a dozen full programmes (where other matches are being broadcast) and then those that are rescheduled due to cup games or bad weather. You're only looking at about half a dozen a season, surely. And there'd be little chance of any matches being moved from Saturday 3pm to midweek because there won't be time to play them because the big teams (the ones who already have TV channels) are already playing more or less every midweek.

Even half dozen games would be a nice little sweetener and add value to subscription services all these clubs seem to offer. You might get a situation where non-Saturday and non-TV games are moved from slots that clash with TV games where possible.
SW
Steve Williams
Jon posted:
Even half dozen games would be a nice little sweetener and add value to subscription services all these clubs seem to offer. You might get a situation where non-Saturday and non-TV games are moved from slots that clash with TV games where possible.


I don't mean half a dozen matches per club, I mean half a dozen matches per season. Many clubs won't even play one.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Spanner in the works ....

Virgin Media has asked Ofcom to investigate the Premier League rights auction process, calling for Competition Act formal investigation.

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