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I didn't realise that The Outsiders was only a one-off - this for instance does have potential , a very much a kitsch of a drama based upon the old ITC adventure drama's of the 60's and 70's. It's a shame as I did quite enjoy it.
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that's the point though - it didn;t really show any potential. It just looked like the producers had taken the elements of all the action adventure films you could think of (James Bond, The Avengers etc.) and put them into an overlong, clunky programme which took itself too seriously.
and you complain about ITV showing no 'innovation' and then berate them for not bringing back average drama series' like Steel River Blues and Making Waves - make your mind up.
Admittedly Steel River Blues was a copy of London's Burning but it had potential especially based in the North East where there are allsorts of oil pipes, gas pipes and other chemical places, unlike Central London. Thus the innovation would have been to use those places a bit more and the local people ARE different to Londoners.
Making Waves was innovative, can you name any other naval style drama in the last 20 years - Roughnecks doesn't count as it was based on an oil rigg.
The Outsiders was innovative as there hasn't really been an adventure series of that ilk for almost 20 years, last one being Dempsey and Makepeace (as the long running returning series). Ultimate Force is also classed as an adventure series but is based upon thar army, whereas The Outsiders is based upon secret services that ARE outside the governments remit (and they do exist). BTW Yellowthread Street (Central ITV plc) only last 1 series.
Plus it was nice to see Mersey TV (Media3 ltd) doing something different than just soap!
Minder was very dire but ended up being a success, so did Boon and I could actually name about 10 others as well, that started off VERY badly but ended up being classics.
IMHO The Outsiders does have potential, indeed it does need tweaking with but if they got the right people to tweak it then, yes, it could be the great return of the British adventure drams to television.
PS I would love to see a remake of Van Der Valk - especially if BBC were to make it (after watching the Dalziel and Pascoe story set in Amsterdam earlier this year) - another initally innovative idea that hasn't been used for 20 years so could be classed as innovative in todays TV world.
Dempsey and Makepeace, I love that show, we need more shows like this!
harshy
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amosc100 posted:
Luke posted:
amosc100 posted:
I didn't realise that The Outsiders was only a one-off - this for instance does have potential , a very much a kitsch of a drama based upon the old ITC adventure drama's of the 60's and 70's. It's a shame as I did quite enjoy it.
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that's the point though - it didn;t really show any potential. It just looked like the producers had taken the elements of all the action adventure films you could think of (James Bond, The Avengers etc.) and put them into an overlong, clunky programme which took itself too seriously.
and you complain about ITV showing no 'innovation' and then berate them for not bringing back average drama series' like Steel River Blues and Making Waves - make your mind up.
Admittedly Steel River Blues was a copy of London's Burning but it had potential especially based in the North East where there are allsorts of oil pipes, gas pipes and other chemical places, unlike Central London. Thus the innovation would have been to use those places a bit more and the local people ARE different to Londoners.
Making Waves was innovative, can you name any other naval style drama in the last 20 years - Roughnecks doesn't count as it was based on an oil rigg.
The Outsiders was innovative as there hasn't really been an adventure series of that ilk for almost 20 years, last one being Dempsey and Makepeace (as the long running returning series). Ultimate Force is also classed as an adventure series but is based upon thar army, whereas The Outsiders is based upon secret services that ARE outside the governments remit (and they do exist). BTW Yellowthread Street (Central ITV plc) only last 1 series.
Plus it was nice to see Mersey TV (Media3 ltd) doing something different than just soap!
Minder was very dire but ended up being a success, so did Boon and I could actually name about 10 others as well, that started off VERY badly but ended up being classics.
IMHO The Outsiders does have potential, indeed it does need tweaking with but if they got the right people to tweak it then, yes, it could be the great return of the British adventure drams to television.
PS I would love to see a remake of Van Der Valk - especially if BBC were to make it (after watching the Dalziel and Pascoe story set in Amsterdam earlier this year) - another initally innovative idea that hasn't been used for 20 years so could be classed as innovative in todays TV world.
Dempsey and Makepeace, I love that show, we need more shows like this!
