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The Paul O'Grady Show - axed

Channel 4 show comes to an end. (August 2009)

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JC
JonathanC
Digital Spy has a different take on this: it's not due to a pay cut for Paul specifically, but a budget cut apparently.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a174926/ogrady-threatens-to-leave-channel-4.html
Quote:
O'Grady said: "Cutting it by half is outrageous. You're going to end up with the blandest of the bland and I won't be part of it. I really want to carry on.

"I like Channel 4 and I'm more than happy to stay and take a cut in my own wages, perhaps 20%. But I'm not going to turn around to my staff and say, 'We've got to cut your wages or sack you'. They've been with me for six years - they have mortgages to pay and families to feed.

"I would understand if my ratings were down and the show wasn't performing but it consistently wins its slot and brings in good advertising revenue."

He added: "If we take a 50% cut, it means we'd only be able to afford a couple of cameras. We can't do five days a week for half the price. It would be crap.

"Honestly, it would be the bare arse of a show and it would be a compromise too far. I'd be mortified to do a show that's third rate.


So much for personal greed.
CO
Connews
As much as I understand Paul's decision, the fact that Sky1 isn't on Freeview will signify the death of the show.
NG
noggin Founding member
Remember though chat shows (with decent guests anyway) are inevitably quite expensive.


It's not that simple. A-list guests are seldom paid significant amounts, if anything, for chat show appearances, with a few exceptions. They usually surface when they have a new album/single/movie/play/tv series to plug, and agree to appear for promotional purposes.

However, most A-listers usually only appear on shows with good reputations, and these are usually those with decent production values, and presenters. They don't HAVE to be expensive, but are seldom the cheapest either.

The One Show gets a pretty high standard of guest - but then it is the highest-rated daily or weekly show that celebs can appear on on TV in the UK at the moment. (Ratings count in a promotional context...)
NG
noggin Founding member
I think these defecting tv stars refusing pay cuts just shows personal greed, they're on say £300,000 a year and wont take a 10% pay cut, there's thousands of people out there who can't get jobs who wouldn't say no to £30,000 a year. They're not exactly getting sacked or made redundant like a lot of people are and have been


It doesn't quite work like that though does it?

People live to their means. A 30% pay-cut is a 30% paycut whether you earn £30k or £300k


I think Stevek2 has a valid point about greed, when it comes to personal wages-- some high-earners appear to lose perspective. If you were to have your wage cut from £300,000 to £210,000-- would it affect your quality of life or abilities to pay basic bills? I think not. £210,000 is still an extremely generous wage, and you can live a very comfortable life on that. However if I were earning £15,000 and had my pay cut by 30%, now I think that would be a cause for complaint Laughing

I do take your point the effect on his production company and all that entails. Given Paul's interview in the Daily Mirror a few months ago, I would think his reason to swtich channels could be down to something else (other than salary).


I don't think it is that simple. If you have regularly earned £300k p.a. you will live to those means. If you have a mortgage and other outgoings based on that income, taking a paycut to £210k p.a. could mean selling your house to downsize, changing your investment portfolio etc. Sure those kind of figures are huge, and you can obviously cover your basic living expenses with a tiny percentage of that kind of income, however that doesn't mean you can simply accept such a pay cut. If you think moving elsewhere will allow you to continue earning at the same level, then you will.

If - as appears to be the case on the reports so far - it isn't about personal earnings but about the fees paid to the production company then that is more complicated.

Paul will have two income streams - his performance fees and also as he owns the production company he will have an income from any profit made by it. This is where talent-run independents become more complex...

O'Grady has a large-ish production budget at the moment - it uses a large studio with an audience, and has a pretty solid daily budget for studio production. That's great - it gives it the look the audience is used to. You could massively reduce the budget - but it would change the programme significantly - and at that point Paul may not want to make that different kind of show.
AN
Andrew Founding member
This isn't good news for Channel 4 as it is yet another one of their flagship shows being axed, as Paul says all they will be left with is "four people eating a lousy dinner" at this rate!

Moving to Sky One isn't good for Paul though as he will get low ratings and won't be able to attract decent guests. He'd be better moving back to ITV or moving to Five, but would either of those broadcasters be able to match his current budget?
RM
Roger Mellie

I don't think it is that simple. If you have regularly earned £300k p.a. you will live to those means. If you have a mortgage and other outgoings based on that income, taking a paycut to £210k p.a. could mean selling your house to downsize, changing your investment portfolio etc. Sure those kind of figures are huge, and you can obviously cover your basic living expenses with a tiny percentage of that kind of income, however that doesn't mean you can simply accept such a pay cut. If you think moving elsewhere will allow you to continue earning at the same level, then you will.


Maybe it isn't that simple, I wouldn't know, because I've not come close to earning £300k/year Embarassed However I believe if you are truly "living within in your means", you take such things in to account (the proverbial "[saving for a] rainy day") and not take things for granted. Credit to Paul he doesn't take things for granted, and today he emphasised in the Daily Mirror that he'd be happy to take a personal pay-cut. I think it's a shame other high-earners aren't as sensible or down-to-earth, and appear to have more money then sense-- but so it goes.

However I do accept the argument that if you think moving elsewhere keeps you at same level of living, then you do would do so-- that's reasonable enough. Somebody of Paul O'Grady's stature and popularity can afford to call the shots, but is everyone that fortunate?

In any event (according the Daily Mirror article), Paul has rightly thought more about the effect on the show's quality and jobs for its staff, if a 50% budget cut were to be implemented: I think they are the real losers of such of cuts, not so much highly-paid stars who can bank up tidy cash-reserves for themselves.
Last edited by Roger Mellie on 1 September 2009 8:41pm - 2 times in total
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A former member
And here is said link!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/09/01/paul-o-grady-threatens-to-quit-channel-4-after-bosses-attempt-to-halve-his-show-s-budget-115875-21638761/

IF he does go back to ITV, People in scotland will never seen him!
BR
Brekkie
That does seem to be the real story, and was reported earlier in the year by either The Mirror or The Sun. £2m budget doesn't sound right though - back then I'm sure they said it was £14m a year, which works out around £115,000 per show, which seems more likely. I guess the £2m was Paul's own salary.
AN
Andrew Founding member
"Imagine it – there’d be no guests. Certainly, we wouldn’t be able to send our mums to Dallas to do a marathon, or take the little lad who has never been out of Peckham to Tibet" says the out-spoken scouser

Those features are throw-away rubbish anyway and wouldn't be missed. Nobody tunes in for the recorded VTs

They'd do better just bringing back the organ game, which they'd be able to do if they weren't on Channel 4 (Nobody else has a blanket competitions ban do they?)
BR
Brekkie
I don't think so, and it's high time C4 scrapped theirs. Yes, ensure everything is above board but scrapping them completely benefits nobody, and indeed with some shows they do actually add to it, certainly Deal or No Deal and Paul O'Grady, though preferbly not The Organ Game, which should have been dropped with the move to C4 IMO in favour of a new competition.
ED
EDITOR
it was about tyme C4 scrapped Paul O'Grady, the format was getting old and tireless, and you could always predict guests appearing.........lyk Cilla Black must appear in every series. Now, I have nothing against Cilla, but, Paul couldn't reali be at his best at teatime.

I think C4 should just bring back Des & Mel or go with their idea of a teatime show with Fiona Phillips
PT
Put The Telly On


I think C4 should just bring back Des & Mel or go with their idea of a teatime show with Fiona Phillips


No. C4 doesn't need to go down the cheesy ITV route...although becoming evident in the last few series' of Paul's show.

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