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The Paul O'Grady Show - axed

Channel 4 show comes to an end. (August 2009)

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mediaman2007
If it does turn out he is leaving C4, I could see the show going back to ITV. They're still trying to recreate the success they had when he was in their 5pm slot and I don't think it would be a mistake on their part to at least consider it. They could probably get a cheaper deal than before but still more than C4 are offering. I also think the show as much better when it was on ITV, because ITV's audience are more suited to the format for one thing.


They're not. ITV haven't done a 5pm chat show since Antony Cotton's about 2 years ago. ITV have been building up a strong line up of gameshows and cooking shows which have been rating very well for them.


Yet I read an interview with their head of daytime a week ago looking for 'great 5pm shows'. Still a grey area then.
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A former member
Or maybe paul done this himself? to help kill of the show, and maybe he getting bored with it, thus he can get out of it and try something new!
TV
TV Geek
If it does turn out he is leaving C4, I could see the show going back to ITV. They're still trying to recreate the success they had when he was in their 5pm slot and I don't think it would be a mistake on their part to at least consider it. They could probably get a cheaper deal than before but still more than C4 are offering. I also think the show as much better when it was on ITV, because ITV's audience are more suited to the format for one thing.


They're not. ITV haven't done a 5pm chat show since Antony Cotton's about 2 years ago. ITV have been building up a strong line up of gameshows and cooking shows which have been rating very well for them.


Yet I read an interview with their head of daytime a week ago looking for 'great 5pm shows'. Still a grey area then.


Because, as Goldenballs and the C4 5pm chatshows have proven, you can't go all year with the same 2 or 3 shows without it getting stale. As it stands ITV only have Goldenballs and Britain's Best Dish recurring, but Divided performed very well for them, and apparently they're looking into commissioning either The Fuse or The Chase which both rated well.
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A former member
Divided, The Fuse and The Chase where never seen in scotland Laughing
IS
Inspector Sands

I think time slot had a large part to play. The terrestrial channels struggle to get 2m viewers at 5pm so digital channels don't have a hope in hell of doing that well, and the original 8pm slot was very competitive. And when they moved to 6pm, I'd imagine most of their original audience were watching the news.


It's worth remembering that the original slot they had was 8PM and 5PM, so they had the best of both worlds.

I heard an interview with Richard while the show was on where he mentioned that people were asking him 'why aren't you on TV any more?' - for many they just disappeared off the screen (which of course was their original plan before UKTV came their way!). I think they mis-underestimated or were mis-sold the channel, one of Richard's lines when they made the move was that 'digital is the future, in a few years everyone will have to have digital'... which is true but Watch wasn't on Freeview
BR
Brekkie
Remember though chat shows (with decent guests anyway) are inevitably quite expensive. If Paul goes anywhere else, I'm sure it'll be on a weekly rather than daily basis, and he'd probably get as much cash for it and much more time off too.
GF
GrampianForever
Divided, The Fuse and The Chase where never seen in scotland Laughing


Thank God - particularly that Austin Healy one - I'd much rather have The Hour.
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A former member
Divided, The Fuse and The Chase where never seen in scotland Laughing


Thank God - particularly that Austin Healy one - I'd much rather have The Hour.


Turns out that Dickinsons real deals is also more poupler up here! Embarassed
IS
Inspector Sands
Remember though chat shows (with decent guests anyway) are inevitably quite expensive.


It depends... if you get lots of decent guests that are there to plug something it's quite cheap. Look at the standard of guests that The One Show gets for example
RM
Roger Mellie
I think these defecting tv stars refusing pay cuts just shows personal greed, they're on say £300,000 a year and wont take a 10% pay cut, there's thousands of people out there who can't get jobs who wouldn't say no to £30,000 a year. They're not exactly getting sacked or made redundant like a lot of people are and have been


It doesn't quite work like that though does it?

People live to their means. A 30% pay-cut is a 30% paycut whether you earn £30k or £300k


I think Stevek2 has a valid point about greed, when it comes to personal wages-- some high-earners appear to lose perspective. If you were to have your wage cut from £300,000 to £210,000-- would it affect your quality of life or abilities to pay basic bills? I think not. £210,000 is still an extremely generous wage, and you can live a very comfortable life on that. However if I were earning £15,000 and had my pay cut by 30%, now I think that would be a cause for complaint Laughing

I do take your point the effect on his production company and all that entails. Given Paul's interview in the Daily Mirror a few months ago, I would think his reason to swtich channels could be down to something else (other than salary).
JO
Joe
Remember though chat shows (with decent guests anyway) are inevitably quite expensive.

A-listers are generally not - they mostly do it for free.
IS
Inspector Sands

I think Stevek2 has a valid point about greed, when it comes to personal wages-- some high-earners appear to lose perspective. If you were to have your wage cut from £300,000 to £210,000-- would it affect your quality of life or abilities to pay basic bills? I think not.


Possibly, it depends on how much they rely on that ncome. If I earned £300,000 a year and had been regularly for a few years, I'd be living in a house with a mortgage that more befits a £300k salary. A paycut of (almost) a third is still a cut of (almost) a third no matter how much you earn*

The big difference is that someone like a freelance TV presenter when asked 'will you do the same work but for a third less money' can walk and has either other irons in the fire or a rival company waiting to take them on. Most of us would have to go for the pay cut or go for unemployment (or if you've got a good union, fight it!).


*Not that a £90k paycut would save the TV company much anyway

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