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Steve Williams2,952 posts since 1 Aug 2008
It's not like he's doing it with malicious intent. It may be partly out of frustration, but it's mainly for the humour that often comes with a (supposed) off-the-cuff rant. It works well with O'Grady because of his persona, just listen to his Radio 2 show and you'll hear him moaning on there too - the difference is he's always doing it with a laugh or for self-deprecation.


Well, I know O'Grady is hugely popular because he's seen as down to earth and doesn't put on airs and graces but I still think he's on dodgy ground when he does that kind of thing. The Good Morning Britain thing is an example, it's simply bad manners to slag off another show and say you were made to wait around and you didn't have a nice time. It makes for a funny moment on the air but what's to say someone on the Good Morning Britain team didn't get hauled over the coals the next day after O'Grady mentioned it?

Same with the ban on live music, it's all very well saying "Aren't these jobsworths awful for not letting us have live music, it's totally ridiculous, isn't that right?", but there was a reason for that and it's not fair to use your show as a platform to only put one side of the argument across. It's funny on air but it can have consequences. If a researcher gets carpeted because O'Grady slags them off on air, that's not very nice.
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It makes for a funny moment on the air but what's to say someone on the Good Morning Britain team didn't get hauled over the coals the next day after O'Grady mentioned it?


And so there should, Wait nearly two hours for a 5min segment. what is the point. I bet paul did say something and he was just past off.
Steve Williams2,952 posts since 1 Aug 2008
And so there should, Wait nearly two hours for a 5min segment. what is the point. I bet paul did say something and he was just past off.


I wonder how long the guests, especially the members of the public, have to wait to appear on The Paul O'Grady Show.
Hatton Cross3,393 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Especially those that are bumped off the prerecorded shows, then rebooked to appear at the end of one of the live editions. Answer? About 7 hours.

If they then took a pop on air, at the messing around at say the shows exec producer - wonder what 'witty' and humorus response back that would elicit?

Would get to know the London Studios tea bar quite well during those long hours kicking around, I'd have thought.
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DavidWhitfield723 posts since 16 Oct 2013
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Paul wasn't waiting around for two hours. He said he got up at six o'clock, and the first time he was seen on screen was just after 8am. We can't know how much earlier than that he arrived so he could have only been there for half an hour before his interview. Also, there was a lot of moaning that he only got five minutes, but what was Paul expecting? He can't have thought he'd get more than a 5-10 minute window at the very most on a breakfast show. I like Paul O'Grady, but I really don't think it was as rum a deal as waiting a huge amount of time for a shockingly short interview as it was made out.
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VMPhil10,117 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
I think you're reading far too much into it. He's doing it for laughs - not a pinpoint accurate, written complaint of the staff at The London Studios or the management of Good Morning Britain. I would hope that action wouldn't be taken to GMB staff simply because Paul made an on air comment, not unless it was a genuine complaint or scandal that made the papers or something.

Also, whilst I'm at it:

Des Lynam says in his autobiography that he complained to ITV when they were doing The Premiership at 7pm and O'Grady slagged it off on a Lily Savage show, saying one ITV show shouldn't be slagging off another.

Jeez, don't tell Des about TV Burp!
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RDJ2,851 posts since 25 Oct 2003
Central (South) Midlands Today
If you think Paul rants too much on his programme, then you clearly never watched him on Lily Live.

His ranting and monologues took up nearly the first 10 minutes of the show and there is a certain clip of it on Youtube which is definitely NSFW!!

It's his 'thing' and if he was made to stop then I think the viewers would revolt.
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Brekkie33,314 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
Getting back to the show and think this series has been much better than the last. It's also had quite a refreshing line up of guests rather than the usual suspects doing a tour of the chat shows.
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VMPhil10,117 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
Getting back to the show and think this series has been much better than the last. It's also had quite a refreshing line up of guests rather than the usual suspects doing a tour of the chat shows.

Just to add something for balance - when it was originally announced last year, I didn't think it was a good idea for the show to return to daytime after the Friday night show ended. I believe he said he stopped doing the show because of his health problems - this was something I was wary about, with my fears confirmed when he took ill soon after the show returned. As well as this I felt that his Radio 2 show in particular allowed him more freedom and felt more natural.


However I agree that this last series - of what I've been able to see - has been much improved on last year despite my initial reservations. I'd still like them to bring back the old theme, but apart from that I don't really have any complaints. It does all seem very low key compared to the original run however - I haven't seen any promotion or trailers for this series.
Steve Williams2,952 posts since 1 Aug 2008
Jeez, don't tell Des about TV Burp!


Yes, but it was a different thing, because O'Grady wasn't parodying it or making fun of it but saying "Why is the football at seven o'clock, we don't want to see it there, take it off". Just a complaint, with no humour about it, simply "I don't like this and I've got a platform to say so". Des says they were getting enough stick in the papers, they didn't need the channel's own shows complaining about it.

I know O'Grady plays it all for laughs and his thing is complaining but it depends what you're complaining about, isn't it? Complain in a funny way about your own show, yeah. I know Good Morning Britain was a silly joke really, but you end up with O'Grady saying the show is run by idiots and his audience go "Oh, did you hear, Good Morning Britain are really unprofessional" and it gets a bad reputation among the audience. It's just bad manners.

And that's it.
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VMPhil10,117 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
Yes, but it was a different thing, because O'Grady wasn't parodying it or making fun of it but saying "Why is the football at seven o'clock, we don't want to see it there, take it off". Just a complaint, with no humour about it, simply "I don't like this and I've got a platform to say so". Des says they were getting enough stick in the papers, they didn't need the channel's own shows complaining about it.

Put into context, it does indeed sound a bit rude. If it was Blankety Blank, there is an unedited episode on YouTube which shows just how much footage was edited out of the final broadcast. I wonder if O'Grady made the remark in character as Lily Savage, and assumed that it would be edited out of the final broadcast? Certainly whoever was editing the programme (if it wasn't live) should have considered whether it was a good idea to include such a remark for broadcast - even if O'Grady truly meant it. In any case, I'm actually inclined to agree with you - someone on the same channel as you, kicking you whilst you're down, is unfair.


I know O'Grady plays it all for laughs and his thing is complaining but it depends what you're complaining about, isn't it? Complain in a funny way about your own show, yeah. I know Good Morning Britain was a silly joke really, but you end up with O'Grady saying the show is run by idiots and his audience go "Oh, did you hear, Good Morning Britain are really unprofessional" and it gets a bad reputation among the audience. It's just bad manners.

And that's it.

I disagree with you on this however. Would anyone really come away with the opinion that GMB are unprofessional, just because O'Grady made a brief comment during the show? Maybe it's just me, but I'd probably forget it by the end of the show if he'd only mentioned it once, I certainly wouldn't from then on see the whole of GMB as unprofessional because of it. Bad manners perhaps, but not something I feel that would tarnish the reputation of GMB for O'Grady's audience.