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Paul Daniels has died

(March 2016)

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BH
BillyH Founding member
I remember Every Second Counts having a fairly astonishing shelf-life - it ended in 1993 but repeats of it ran right through the rest of the decade, probably until at least 1998-99. Whereas I don't think any episodes of his magic show have been repeated at all in the last two decades.

EDIT: Almost correct - checking Genome just the one repeat run for ESC in the summer of 1998, for no obvious reason other than a cheap schedule filler. I remember being baffled when I saw it as it was already half-a-decade old by then, which when you're nine years old is like a lifetime ago.

I saw him live in 1998 at the Palladium, in a triple-bill of acts including Les Dennis and Bobby Davro. Still brilliant.
RM
Roger Mellie


If only there were an online editable encyclopaedia where all this information would be readily available for someone to read......


Ah yes, and if only it were reliable enough to be used as authoritative source; that online editable encyclopaedia where all this information is readily available for someone, anyone, to... well... edit (for better or worse)

I was trying to get on to IMDB to have a look at Paul Daniel's credits, but the blue spiral of doom was at play when I tried to access. Being as this is a forum about television, I thought I may be so bold as to ask on here to stimulate discussion on PD's career-- though my question in the last post was more rhetorical.

From Challenge's own t'interweb page.
http://www.challenge.co.uk/paul-daniels-what-a-legend/
Last edited by Roger Mellie on 20 March 2016 10:17pm - 4 times in total
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A former member
If I remember, it was shown around midday? just after michael palin Doc in 1998. It was a long running gameshow, 9 years, but still its not a bad show. cheap filler or not. Even turnabout never got that honer.

He ended up being like Beadle having people turn on him around late 90s for no reason, I think he come back in to fashion again like Bob.

MI
Michael
He ended up being like Beadle having people turn on him around late 90s for no reason, I think he come back in to fashion again like Bob.


He just fell out of fashion. Times changed. Magic was less about being entertained, and more about figuring out how he did it. David Copperfield's Hollywood style was more glamourous than PD's end-of-the-pier stuff, and shows like Jonathan Creek actively took the piss out of stage magicians. Then you had shows like "Breaking The Magician's Code" which sought to remove the veil completely. Nowadays magic has to shock to be noteworthy - hence the David Blaine / Dynamo era. Even Penn & Teller's otherwise admirable show was all about working out how the trick was done, rather than being entertainment for entertainment's sake. Also as Stephen M***hern has proved, doing pure entertaining magic alone isn't enough to sustain a TV career any more.

Add in to that the fact that he became fair game for Louis Theroux and Mrs Merton etc, and you have the classic signs of TV's vicious "moving on" culture - that's it, you're yesterday's news, good luck on the Panto circuit.

Also you now have the classic guilt complex that because he's died, everyone seems to love him again and is asking the question where has he been these past 10-15 years? He's been selling out shows up and down the country. Didn't need TV in the end.
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A former member
Alot of people don;t need TV, look at Cannon and ball, the Kranikes or even Ken dodd, ( 89) and all can still sell out shows, Mind you Paul I believe was always at the Edinburgh Fringe and popped up every time on STV Razz



MI
Michael
Bobby Ball a regular on Not Going Out mind.
BU
buster
It is curious how in that famous "BBC1's got a lot of fings on" Christmas 1993 promo Paul and Debbie are right in the thick of it as one of the main shows of BBC1 (along with Gen Game, House Party and Big Break). The very next year his magic show was canned. Obviously he carried on with Wipeout and Secrets but his star faded rapidly after 94.
NB
nbafan89
If I remember, it was shown around midday? just after michael palin Doc in 1998. It was a long running gameshow, 9 years, but still its not a bad show. cheap filler or not. Even turnabout never got that honer.

He ended up being like Beadle having people turn on him around late 90s for no reason, I think he come back in to fashion again like Bob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afbt0JTcS_w


yes it was on in july 98 I remember watching it on summer holidays from school
SW
Steve Williams
It is curious how in that famous "BBC1's got a lot of fings on" Christmas 1993 promo Paul and Debbie are right in the thick of it as one of the main shows of BBC1 (along with Gen Game, House Party and Big Break). The very next year his magic show was canned. Obviously he carried on with Wipeout and Secrets but his star faded rapidly after 94.


A lot of BBC1 Saturday night staples ended in 1994, J*m'll Fix It and That's Life ended that year as well. A bit of a clearing of the decks. Of course, Paul did continue on the Beeb with Secrets which had a series in 1995 and was more based around close-up magic, but not on Saturdays, in the week. Probably too similar and too close to his previous series to really work.

That said, even at the time it felt like that Christmas 1993 promo was a bit out of date, the Gen Game was declining a bit and Big Break was always tolerated rather than loved by the Beeb. The really big shows of that Christmas - Only Fools, One Foot - weren't in it.

I do remember that Every Second Counts repeat run in 1998, baffled me at the time. I remember it was the 1992 series, and lots of the questions were really out of date. I always associate Every Second Counts and The Magic Show with my grandmothers' house, I never remember watching them at home.
LB
Long bottom
RIP chap.
DA
davidmarper2010
Possibly Paul's last ever TV appearance before his death. This is a sketch from the Keith Lemon Sketch Show called Educating Hogwarts
WH
Whataday Founding member
About 14 years ago when I ran a Big Breakfast related website, I had an email exchange with Paul. Along with Debbie, he had hosted the programme and appeared as a guest several times. He was wonderfully pleasant not only about the programme, but also the crew and was incredibly supportive to me as I was setting up the website. In that brief exchange he really did seem a genuine, lovely man.

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