While I can understand ITC retaining the classic film series, as their name was on them, surely ATV themselves made the VT stuff, so should've been kept by Central, or was this due to sales rights?
It wouldn't have been related to whether it was on VT or not. According to Wikipedia:
Central maintained control of ATV's news archive and regional programmes, plus programming already in production or being shown at the time of changeover; the rest of the ATV archive was sold on by ACC.
ACC remained in control of ITC and Stoll-Moss Theatres until ITC was sold to Polygram International Television—coincidentally bringing Lew Grade back into control of ITC until his death in 1998. Stoll-Moss Theatres, the last remaining part of ACC, was sold to the Really Useful Group in 2001.
Carlton Communications had spent much of the 1980s and 1990s buying up the intellectual property of the former ACC, including the rights to the ATV logo and company name, the ATV news archive (via its purchase of Central) and finally both the ATV and ITC archives,
So programmes such as Crossroads, Family Fortunes stayed with Central, the ITC archive stayed with ITC and the ATV archive was sold on
So back in the "good old days" when Central pres was in Brum, would material held in Nottingham have been physically taken to Brum for TX playout or would it be sent down the line?
No idea. I'd assume there was a library at Brum too. But obviously there was far more room at Nottingham, especially after the move to Gas Street. Remember too that under Carlton the archive was far bigger due to all the films they owned
Interestingly according to Wikipedia, the ATV/Central news archive is still in their old studios in Nottingham as part of Nottingham University
Carlton Screen Advertising haven't changed their ident for the best part of a decade or so now, I take it that Vue have simply swapped from Pearl and Dean to Carlton. I know no cinema in my area that has Pearl and Dean, my old UCI which is now Odeon uses Carlton, as does my nearest Cineworld.
I think there was a rumour that the two companies would tie up at some point, but if they intend to do such a thing they have to take it by the Office of Fair Trading as it would pratically be a monopoly.
It's just weird to think that Screen Advertising is the only arm of ITV to keep the Carlton name, I was just damn surprised they never changed it to Granada Screen Advertising, but saying that more people tend to remember Rank Screen Advertising.
I think the name thing will never be sorted, I have a couple of Bullseye related items and they are copyright of Carlton International Media but under licence from Granada Ventures, it just sounds odd for a company that was supposed to have been an alamgamted organisation about three years ago or so now.
AIUI Polygram never treated the ATV archive very well, and although it's more ATV many episodes of Crossroads of Tiswas seem to be nowhere. Only when Carlton gained the ATV archive they started to see sense by digitally remastering alot of material and either reshowing it or licenensing it for DVD use etc.
The ITC name has always confused me - So for clarification, ITC were a seperate company that had a share in ATV?
What did ITC stand for?
Does Carlton still exsist as a seperate company following the Granada merger?
What's happened to the name rights of other former ITV companies - obviously Victor Lewis-Smith has Rediffusion, Thames to Pearson, Ian White TV-am... what about the others?
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FromtheNorth posted:
Blimey it's confusing.
The ITC name has always confused me - So for clarification, ITC were a seperate company that had a share in ATV?
What did ITC stand for?
No Idea
FromtheNorth posted:
Blimey it's confusing.
Does Carlton still exsist as a seperate company following the Granada merger? ..
NO ITV own everything 0f Carlton as carlton make up 50% of ITV
FromtheNorth posted:
Blimey it's confusing.
What's happened to the name rights of other former ITV companies - obviously Victor Lewis-Smith has Rediffusion, Thames to Pearson, Ian White TV-am... what about the others?
ITV still holds them and use them for teh liences for channel3
Blimey it's confusing.
What's happened to the name rights of other former ITV companies - obviously Victor Lewis-Smith has Rediffusion, Thames to Pearson, Ian White TV-am... what about the others?
ITV still holds them and use them for teh liences for channel3
I think the question was more about the likes of TVS, Westward, TSW etc
does Granada still own any cinama or bowling allys?
Does Carlton Screen Advertising count? Otherwise No.
I think Pearl & Dean have replaced them though, when I saw Casino Royale the other day at Romford Ster Century, sorry VUE cinema (another cr@p name) they had Pearl & Dean (with famous tune) instead of CSA
Its another one of those rebranding exercises that hasn't settled in Yet. Vue was created from Warner Village Cinemas, previously Warner Cinemas & 3 UCI cinema sites, they then bought Ster & tried to buy Cineworld Thats rumbling on. The advertsing contracts with each chain were different. Warner / Vue were with Pearl & Dean and I understand that is the way they all will go when the present contracts expire. Thats is if Vue stays owned by the present set of venture capitalists - there was talk of a further aquisition of the UCI chain. The UK cinema chains have been consolidating for some time.
All but the Irish ones, which are still UCI in name only (the Odeon logo font is used in adverts, credit card bookings say Odeon UCI, and they have the Odeon in house magazine - its wierd, but I think there's some sort of legal problem with the ownership of the Odeon name over here, and whether Ward Anderson still has use of it for cinema purposes since they bought Odeon's Irish assets 25 years ago).
ITC was eventually simply ITC Entertainment. In the earlier days it was Incorporated Television Company in Europe and Independent Television Corporation in North America. It was the vehicle by which Lew Grade got involved in ATV, later becoming part of ACC which was ATV's parent company. ACC had to sell 49% of Central under the terms for the award of the ITV contract to Central, it shortly thereafter had to sell the remaining 51% when Robert Holmes a Court took over ACC - the IBA wasn't too happy about a non-British citizen having control of an ITV contractor.
Blimey it's confusing.
The ITC name has always confused me - So for clarification, ITC were a seperate company that had a share in ATV?
What did ITC stand for?
What's happened to the name rights of other former ITV companies - obviously Victor Lewis-Smith has Rediffusion, Thames to Pearson, Ian White TV-am... what about the others?