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Oneness on lockdown - new idents for BBC One

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Owen_ploc
Do new trailers now add shadows to the text? Minus those that using the red endboard.

NI started adding shadows to the text a while ago.
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FrancesC
Do new trailers now add shadows to the text? Minus those that using the red endboard.

NI started adding shadows to the text a while ago.

I believe You Are What You Wear was the first one but other trailers remained unchanged for more than one month. Now it seems shadows are on all new trailers.
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Josh
Across the BBC, it has been revealed they are committed to spending £100m content spend on diverse productions and talent.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/creative-diversity-commitment
Fan of the media industry from the UK.
DW
DavidWhitfield Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
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This will be supported by a new mandatory 20% diverse-talent target in all new network commissions from April 2021.


I'm sorry but I don't support this. Programme makers shouldn't be told they have to employ minorities. They should be able to cast/employ the people whom they feel are the best for the job. If a black man is best for the job, take him on. If a muslim woman is perfect for the role you're casting, take her on. Take someone on based on their ability to perform the role you're needing them to. Don't, though, force programme makers into a position where they have to say 'ah, we'd better get [a minority] in because we have to'. It's a bit of an insult to the candidate in that scenario if nothing else. Choose the person who's best for the role. Race/sexuality/religion shouldn't come into it at all.
Last edited by DavidWhitfield on 22 June 2020 1:49pm
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Joe
Well, we've tried it your way since television was invented – and it doesn't seem to be working. Maybe we should try to be a bit more intentional about it now?
JO
Jon Recently warned Central (West) Midlands Today
Joe posted:
Well, we've tried it your way since television was invented – and it doesn't seem to be working. Maybe we should try to be a bit more intentional about it now?

What can you point to that suggests it’s not working?
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Jonwo
Surely it's a good thing to support more diversity on and off screen.
HC
Hatton Cross Central (West) Midlands Today
Of course it is - but it should be based on talent, ideas and merit - not to forfill a box ticking quota exercise to shut pressure groups up.
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Joe
Jon posted:
Joe posted:
Well, we've tried it your way since television was invented – and it doesn't seem to be working. Maybe we should try to be a bit more intentional about it now?

What can you point to that suggests it’s not working?

I admit I misread the quoted line and didn’t spot the word ‘talent’ and (assuming that refers to on-screen talent) I don’t have any data on on-screen talent to hand. But here’s an article on the industry as a whole: https://www.businessfast.co.uk/the-bame-screen-test-does-british-tv-lack-diversity/

Certainly, anecdotally, it doesn’t feel like minority demographics are represented enough on-screen. Sure, there are people of colour in many different settings, but that isn’t the same as true representation.
Last edited by Joe on 22 June 2020 1:58pm
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Flux London London
Quote:
This will be supported by a new mandatory 20% diverse-talent target in all new network commissions from April 2021.


I'm sorry but I don't support this. Programme makers shouldn't be told they have to employ minorities. They should be able to cast/employ the people whom they feel are the best for the job. If a black man is best for the job, take him on. If a muslim woman is perfect for the role you're casting, take her on. Take someone on based on their ability to perform the role you're needing them to. Don't, though, force programme makers into a position where they have to say 'ah, we'd better get [a minority] in because we have to'. It's a bit of an insult to the candidate in that scenario if nothing else. Choose the person who's best for the role. Race/sexuality/religion shouldn't come into it at all.


I agree if we’re talking about production teams. It’s equal opportunity that’s needed. No one being discriminated from applying for a job based on their race. There should never be a mandatory number placed on any representation in the workplace (race, sexuality, gender) - the role itself just needs to be open and available for any qualified candidate to apply for regardless.

On screen talent, however, I think is slightly different because we’re talking about representation and visibility on screen. Of course we still shouldn’t get to a place where a presenter is only given a job because of the colour of their skin, but I don’t think that’s the aim here. We’re talking about BAME stories being told by BAME talent. I don’t think it means a show just won’t get commissioned because it only includes white presenters, but rather acts as an incentive for producers to develop and pitch programmes which naturally include BAME talent or tells stories from their perspective. Here, I think mainstream British TV is lacking and a mandatory requirement could help address the balance.
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Jonwo
Flux posted:

On screen talent, however, I think is slightly different because we’re talking about representation and visibility on screen. Of course we still shouldn’t get to a place where a presenter is only given a job because of the colour of their skin, but I don’t think that’s the aim here. We’re talking about BAME stories being told by BAME talent. I don’t think it means a show just won’t get commissioned because it only includes white presenters, but rather acts as an incentive for producers to develop and pitch programmes which naturally include BAME talent or tells stories from their perspective. Here, I think mainstream British TV is lacking and a mandatory requirement could help address the balance.


In the last few weeks, we've had Sitting in Limbo and I May Destroy You on BBC One, both written and starring BAME creatives, It shows progress is being made but there is a way to go.
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tightrope78 Recently warned UTV Newsline
Jonwo posted:
Flux posted:

On screen talent, however, I think is slightly different because we’re talking about representation and visibility on screen. Of course we still shouldn’t get to a place where a presenter is only given a job because of the colour of their skin, but I don’t think that’s the aim here. We’re talking about BAME stories being told by BAME talent. I don’t think it means a show just won’t get commissioned because it only includes white presenters, but rather acts as an incentive for producers to develop and pitch programmes which naturally include BAME talent or tells stories from their perspective. Here, I think mainstream British TV is lacking and a mandatory requirement could help address the balance.


In the last few weeks, we've had Sitting in Limbo and I May Destroy You on BBC One, both written and starring BAME creatives, It shows progress is being made but there is a way to go.

Also Noughts + Crosses before that.

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