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Gareth E
It will be on NBC, but on tape delay in primetime. They've relented in streaming it live online after numerous complaints they didn't stream the opening ceremony.


I mean, this really is a joke. I can (just about) understand NBC's logic in tape delaying coverage for primetime on weekdays, but at weekends when a large number of people CAN watch television during the day, there's really no excuse not to show it live.


Their reasoning is that they spent billions of dollars on it, and were due to make a loss. They needed to ensure they maximised their commercial income. They feared if they showed events live, fewer people would watch the highlights in primetime, and also decided to show less stuff live in primetime so that they could control the viewer-experience to keep it as positive as possible and ensure people didn't switch off - losing them money.

However they appear to have data supporting a view that live viewing isn't reducing prime-time viewing figures - in fact it might drive them - so they are reconsidering.

Public Service is not a phrase that US commercial broadcasters have to understand... If it doesn't make them more money they won't do it.


I understand, but I still don't understand . . . if you know what I mean. Maybe I'm just too used to our own broadcasting industry, but surely in today's media landscape its all about giving the viewer as much choice as possible, rather than telling them that they have to watch the big events at a certain time on a certain channel. That's obviously not the culture in the US.

Thank God for the BBC . . .
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paul_hadley
Did anyone catch any of (British) Eurosport's coverage?

What titles did they use? The official ones?
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levaniX_4
So, ive been watching Europsport coverage. But in the beginning, 5 mins before they were using both live broadcasting of london views, and footage with athletes

So, then, no difference from official
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Steve in Pudsey
Eurosport are currently repeating the closing ceremony. Hearing their commentator state the obvious all over the wrong bits, I forgive Trevor Nelson everything.
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noggin Founding member

I understand, but I still don't understand . . . if you know what I mean. Maybe I'm just too used to our own broadcasting industry, but surely in today's media landscape its all about giving the viewer as much choice as possible, rather than telling them that they have to watch the big events at a certain time on a certain channel.


Whatever makes the most money for NBC - that's the ONLY factor. It's understandable - they thought they were going to make a loss on this games, so did absoltely everything they could to maximise their income. Convenience and what the viewer wants are totally irrelevant - it's what the viewer can be forced to do that makes the most money that counts.

Welcome to the world of commercial broadcasting with zero public service remit.

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That's obviously not the culture in the US.


No - though to be honest the US has never done the 'live event' stuff the way we do. They have always delayed content for different timezones. Remember that the US is showing a breakfast show in New York when the late evening news is on in Hawaii...
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DVB Cornwall

Channel 4 News' Jon Snow interviewed for ten News Australia.
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Worzel

Channel 4 News' Jon Snow interviewed for ten News Australia.


Jon Snow was never going to criticise London 2012 was he? He is after all, going to be one of the main presenters for Channel 4's Paralympic coverage! Wink
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Michael

No - though to be honest the US has never done the 'live event' stuff the way we do. They have always delayed content for different timezones. Remember that the US is showing a breakfast show in New York when the late evening news is on in Hawaii...


Wrong way round! Hawaii is 5 hours behind New York.
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Jon

No - though to be honest the US has never done the 'live event' stuff the way we do. They have always delayed content for different timezones. Remember that the US is showing a breakfast show in New York when the late evening news is on in Hawaii...


Wrong way round! Hawaii is 5 hours behind New York.

If that's the case is it not possible the US is showing a breakfast show in New York, when the late news is on in Hawaii?
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WillPS
Jon posted:

No - though to be honest the US has never done the 'live event' stuff the way we do. They have always delayed content for different timezones. Remember that the US is showing a breakfast show in New York when the late evening news is on in Hawaii...


Wrong way round! Hawaii is 5 hours behind New York.

If that's the case is it not possible the US is showing a breakfast show in New York, when the late news is on in Hawaii?


No it isn't.

7am - 9am NY Time = 2am - 4am Hawaii Time
7am - 9am Hawaii Time = 12noon - 2pm NY Time
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The SNT Three
Jon posted:

No - though to be honest the US has never done the 'live event' stuff the way we do. They have always delayed content for different timezones. Remember that the US is showing a breakfast show in New York when the late evening news is on in Hawaii...


Wrong way round! Hawaii is 5 hours behind New York.

If that's the case is it not possible the US is showing a breakfast show in New York, when the late news is on in Hawaii?


No it isn't.

7am - 9am NY Time = 2am - 4am Hawaii Time
7am - 9am Hawaii Time = 12noon - 2pm NY Time


The US morning news shows start at 4am though, generally. Normally a national bulletin at 4am, local news at 4.30am and the main national shows (CBS This Morning, Today or Good Morning America) at 7am. When it's 11pm in Hawaii, which is when the late bulletins air.
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Inspector Sands
Jon Snow was never going to criticise London 2012 was he? He is after all, going to be one of the main presenters for Channel 4's Paralympic coverage! Wink

You reckon? He's hardly known for toeing the party line is he? He's the only TV presenter who dares not to wear a poppy every November.

Incidently Hamish Mcdonald used to be a reporter on Channel 4 News which probably explains why this interview happened

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