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Olympics 2012: Live Coverage

(July 2012)

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DO
dosxuk
(and also the accreditation passes - your signature is very slightly wrong Smile)


Only very slightly...
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/infinity-pass.jpg
There's something sketchy about that - the London ones look like this - and once they've been laminated, the hologram goes on the same line as the barcode. Is that one from a previous event?


It's my Athens one. I know better than posting pictures of current passes on the internet!

And yes, I did take advantage of the infinity on my rare times off Smile
NG
noggin Founding member

And yes, I did take advantage of the infinity on my rare times off Smile


AIUI Infinity has been replaced by ALL at London 2012 - or do they mean different things?
PE
Pete Founding member

And yes, I did take advantage of the infinity on my rare times off Smile


AIUI Infinity has been replaced by ALL at London 2012 - or do they mean different things?


I noticed Kate Middleton had ALL on hers
DO
dosxuk

And yes, I did take advantage of the infinity on my rare times off Smile


AIUI Infinity has been replaced by ALL at London 2012 - or do they mean different things?


I'd guess so, it meant all venues (except opening & closing ceremonies). Although I've seen some vehicle accreditations with infinity symbols in London, so maybe it's been redefined.
BR
Brekkie
They did them last time around too, and always do them at Wimbledon. In all cases they're completely unnecessary as it's completely obvious what you're watching. My theory though is perhaps they're used instead of a DOG, allowing them to put the BBC Sport logo on screen every 15 minutes or so or during a big race.


Does the Live bug include a BBC Sport logo though? Doesn't it just animate on to say live, the location then animates out of the bug, and then the whole thing disappears again? Don't think a BBC Sport logo is involved?

They animate on with a BBC Sport logo - complete with Olympic rings. Don't tell them though it's so subtle you don't notice it! Very Happy

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I agree that they are pretty pointless. Equally - they are also pretty subtle and only on-screen for a short period. NBC apparently stick a live bug up on all of their live stuff - not that there is that much of it...

That's true - I wonder if C4 will have a live bug throughout the Paralympics. I do think though it would be better to highlight what the event is rather than where it is at.
UK
UKnews

And yes, I did take advantage of the infinity on my rare times off Smile


AIUI Infinity has been replaced by ALL at London 2012 - or do they mean different things?


I'd guess so, it meant all venues (except opening & closing ceremonies). Although I've seen some vehicle accreditations with infinity symbols in London, so maybe it's been redefined.

Sounds like its the same now- all venues excepet ceremonies and other events designated as 'High Demand' - where they don't have enough press / media seating to meet demand- so far its been swimming finals and Team USA Basketball games. To get into those you either need an extra ticket / armband or be classed as someone (a journalist or protographer mostly) who is guarnteed access. (There is 'All' on a grey background, where you don't have access to 'Prime Events'- basically finals I think)

Where you're allowed to go / sit once you're in a press or media area of a venue is another matter entirely. It often depends on how popular the event is- I was very surprised that I managed to get in and see what I did last night Wink
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
They did them last time around too, and always do them at Wimbledon. In all cases they're completely unnecessary as it's completely obvious what you're watching. My theory though is perhaps they're used instead of a DOG, allowing them to put the BBC Sport logo on screen every 15 minutes or so or during a big race.


Does the Live bug include a BBC Sport logo though? Doesn't it just animate on to say live, the location then animates out of the bug, and then the whole thing disappears again? Don't think a BBC Sport logo is involved?

I agree that they are pretty pointless. Equally - they are also pretty subtle and only on-screen for a short period. NBC apparently stick a live bug up on all of their live stuff - not that there is that much of it...


There's obviously some sort of rationale behind it, the current "BBC Sport | Live <flip> <some location> <flip> Commentators: <somebody> and <somebody else>" tags. Preferable in my view to having "Live" bugs on the screen, however either can work if implemented properly.

With regards to NBC, they've now upset everybody again by not taking the 100m mens final race live. Complaints are currently being addressed to the Daily Mail and the NBC Olympics wall on Facebook, which includes new "revelations" that they don't even stick to their own published schedules!

This person appears to sum it up well:

Somebody on Facebook posted:
[The] BBC manages to broadcast live Olympics all day, NBC 6 hour "tape" delays. WTF is a tape delay in a digital world? NBC has a 6 hour delay for events 3000 miles away. NASA has a 15 minute delay for an event 150,000,000 miles away. Even the 6 hour delay is being kind... with all the Ryan Seacrest crap and commercials it turns into 9 hours and everyone in my house gave up and went to bed. Watching the Olympics used to be a family event, now no one can watch because nothing is ever actually on NBC.
EL
elmarko
I've seen a camera with what looks like two lenses following athletes around on the running track after they've won, so I thought it was a 3D camera.

But then I've seen that camera cut to by OBS (I assume). A good example is the end of the 1500 metres mens race yesterday.

So what's going on? Is it a 3d camera? Is it possible to cut to one on a 2D feed and just see one lens?
MA
Markymark
I've seen a camera with what looks like two lenses following athletes around on the running track after they've won, so I thought it was a 3D camera.

But then I've seen that camera cut to by OBS (I assume). A good example is the end of the 1500 metres mens race yesterday.

So what's going on? Is it a 3d camera? Is it possible to cut to one on a 2D feed and just see one lens?


Yes almost certainly, and yes it is.
GO
gottago
I've seen a camera with what looks like two lenses following athletes around on the running track after they've won, so I thought it was a 3D camera.

But then I've seen that camera cut to by OBS (I assume). A good example is the end of the 1500 metres mens race yesterday.

So what's going on? Is it a 3d camera? Is it possible to cut to one on a 2D feed and just see one lens?


Yes almost certainly, and yes it is.


In that case why is the 3D coverage often using separate cameras to the 2D coverage? Could they not just use 3D cameras instead of 2D for the events they've been showing in 3D or is it simply a case of the equipment currently being too expensive for there to be enough cameras on the field?
MA
Markymark
I've seen a camera with what looks like two lenses following athletes around on the running track after they've won, so I thought it was a 3D camera.

But then I've seen that camera cut to by OBS (I assume). A good example is the end of the 1500 metres mens race yesterday.

So what's going on? Is it a 3d camera? Is it possible to cut to one on a 2D feed and just see one lens?


Yes almost certainly, and yes it is.


In that case why is the 3D coverage often using separate cameras to the 2D coverage? Could they not just use 3D cameras instead of 2D for the events they've been showing in 3D or is it simply a case of the equipment currently being too expensive for there to be enough cameras on the field?


The 3D coverage often requires different camera angles to 2D coverage. For instance at Wimbledon the primary 3D cameras were much lower down, than the 2D rigs.

3D camera rigs can be (and are) used to provide 2D feeds, just the output from the left hand camera is used, and also 2D camera feeds can be artificially processed into pseudo 3D feeds, though the latter should be used very sparingly !.
EL
elmarko
3D camera positions are different to give a sense of depth, no point using cameras for football in 3D high up on a gantry, for example.

And because of this, seats are being given over to TV camera positions, reducing revenue.

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