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(August 2012)

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noggin Founding member
Not sure I follow. Just because BBC One SD and BBC One HD share a playout chain doesn't mean that they have to look identical.

It's perfectly possible to put a DOG in the HD feed and not in the SD feed (and control it's removal and insertion via automation) in a combined playout area... Nothing to stop you having an HD DSK (or similar) under automation control in the HD playout chain post-SD downconversion.
SN
The SNT Three
buster posted:
I can forgive the regional news, after all they want to plug their local success stories. Just be glad you don't have to watch London regional news at the moment Laughing


Slightly on this note - I read the Evening Standard earlier, picked it up on a train. About 98% Olympics. If that's what London Tonight and BBC London consist of at the moment I feel for you!

Even BBC Look East have a special olympics studio and can't stop hawking on about it...
OV
Orry Verducci
I think the BBC One HD DOG disappeared around the same time BBC Three started broadcasting on its 24 hour stream, which is why I made the link between the DOG and playout.

The decision to remove it may be unrelated, but given the timing and the changes to the playout chain for the games (permanant for BBC One) I'm assuming that with all the changes they didn't have chance to move the graphics generator to after the downscale, and given how minor it is I expect they are reluctant to touch things until after the games now.
IS
Inspector Sands
The SNT Three posted:
Slightly on this note - I read the Evening Standard earlier, picked it up on a train. About 98% Olympics. If that's what London Tonight and BBC London consist of at the moment I feel for you!

To be fair to them, there isn't much else going on that isn't Olympic related. Although the top story on BBC London tonight was the anniversary of the riots
MA
Markymark
Inspector Sands posted:
The SNT Three posted:
Slightly on this note - I read the Evening Standard earlier, picked it up on a train. About 98% Olympics. If that's what London Tonight and BBC London consist of at the moment I feel for you!

To be fair to them, there isn't much else going on that isn't Olympic related. Although the top story on BBC London tonight was the anniversary of the riots


Apart from the successful Mars landing, serious splits in the coalition over the elected Lords, homes flooded out in torrential rain, Syria, and a reasonably high profile Tory MP resigning.

Last night's PM programme on Radio 4 managed 55 out of 60 mins worth of non Olympic news.
Last edited by Markymark on 7 August 2012 8:42am
GE
thegeek Founding member
Gavin Scott posted:
What is this hideously annoying technique of reporters covering events where they stare into a lens doing a piece to camera while the action is happening over their shoulder (or all around them)?
I didn't see the VT myself, just the resulting complaints - apparently during one of the first cycling events, David Bond did a piece to camera during the national anthem in the victory ceremony.

Compare with, for example, Usain Bolt.

Inspector Sands posted:
The thing that's been annoying me as someone who's mainly had the games on semi in the background is that there's no caption saying what the event is just before or flashing up during the event.

With the swimming in particular I'd find myself watching the race knowing how far they'd swum but not how far they had left! it would have been nice to have a 100/200m caption

I'd agree with you there - a brief graphic with the event name would be more useful than, say, a reminder of the name of the venue!
BA
bilky asko
Markymark posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
The SNT Three posted:
Slightly on this note - I read the Evening Standard earlier, picked it up on a train. About 98% Olympics. If that's what London Tonight and BBC London consist of at the moment I feel for you!

To be fair to them, there isn't much else going on that isn't Olympic related. Although the top story on BBC London tonight was the anniversary of the riots


Apart from the successful Mars landing, serious splits in the coalition over the elected Lords, homes flooded out in torrential rain, Syria, and a reasonably high profile Tory MP resigning.


All of which I know about thanks to the BBC News website.
MA
Markymark
bilky asko posted:
Markymark posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
The SNT Three posted:
Slightly on this note - I read the Evening Standard earlier, picked it up on a train. About 98% Olympics. If that's what London Tonight and BBC London consist of at the moment I feel for you!

To be fair to them, there isn't much else going on that isn't Olympic related. Although the top story on BBC London tonight was the anniversary of the riots


Apart from the successful Mars landing, serious splits in the coalition over the elected Lords, homes flooded out in torrential rain, Syria, and a reasonably high profile Tory MP resigning.


All of which I know about thanks to the BBC News website.


So, are you suggesting the BBC should ditch TV news, because it's all available on the website ?
TH
Thomas
thegeek posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
What is this hideously annoying technique of reporters covering events where they stare into a lens doing a piece to camera while the action is happening over their shoulder (or all around them)?
I didn't see the VT myself, just the resulting complaints - apparently during one of the first cycling events, David Bond did a piece to camera during the national anthem in the victory ceremony.

Compare with, for example, Usain Bolt.


Three times they used that technique last night on the News at Six. Twice in two Olympics reports and then again in BBC London. Which obviously was mostly about the Olympics. I understand it in a warzone, when you're showing what is going on at the time, but I don't think it's necessary to prove that you actually were at the Olympic event when you made the report.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
It's like that thing Newsnight like to do where they show the end of a speech and then pan across to show the reporter doing a piece to camera, facing the opposite way to every other journalist in the room. It's all a bit showy ("look at me, I did this with perfect timing and all in one take") and might have been a bit interesting and different once but is being done all the time now.
EL
elmarko
It also makes for some hilarious scenes, I think there was one with Vince Cable where the reporter was talking about him as if he wasn't there, and Vince turns around and is like "wtf?"

It was on Have I Got News For You, I think.
FB
Fluffy Bunny Feet
Thomas posted:
thegeek posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
What is this hideously annoying technique of reporters covering events where they stare into a lens doing a piece to camera while the action is happening over their shoulder (or all around them)?
I didn't see the VT myself, just the resulting complaints - apparently during one of the first cycling events, David Bond did a piece to camera during the national anthem in the victory ceremony.

Compare with, for example, Usain Bolt.


Three times they used that technique last night on the News at Six. Twice in two Olympics reports and then again in BBC London. Which obviously was mostly about the Olympics. I understand it in a warzone, when you're showing what is going on at the time, but I don't think it's necessary to prove that you actually were at the Olympic event when you made the report.


Yes it can get a bit tiresome, however the view may be that as the BBC has a heavy presence(sp?) and that they cover everything going. Also why would a sports fan be watching a sport event on news when it's available eleswhere on the Beeb? Surely the news coverage is to give a snapshot of what's happening?

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