Noel's House Party

Although on that logic with the current schedule it would be to get rid of Who Dares Wins for more quizzes similar to prized apart. I know which one I prefer.

Though I do like the idea of a big show with the lottery live in the studio especially if the draw could be utilised into an audience game somehow.

To sum up why the format is unlikely to work in two words (albeit without including the lotto draws)... Totally Saturday.

Some lottery gameshows are good, some are not. I like Who Dares Wins, I used to like Winning Lines and Secret Fortune. I don't like some of the others, so I don't watch them, and the unsuccesful ones aren't on anymore. The lottery itself rates very poorly, you can see that when it's alone in the schedules, it's almost always the lowest rated thing on BBC1 on a Saturday night, so people are clearly watching the lottery gameshows because they like the shows. How is it not a proper format? It is a game, people win prizes, you can play along at home. I like it.

I don't know what the difference would be between Who Dares Wins, which happens to have the lottery in it, and Noel's House Party or similar, which happens to have the lottery in it. You could do Who Dares Wins without the lottery, all the bits are self-contained, which is why they can repeat them on Challenge. Who Dares Wins is a perfectly likeable quiz and is no different to the other quizzes that have been on Saturday night BBC1 since the year dot. If they wanted they could have done the lottery on Prized Apart.

I had the awful format with the safe in my mind at the time of writing.

Shows like the National Lottery Big Ticket and the awful Red Alert had features in that wouldn't have been too out of place on House Party, and both failed spectacularly.

I'm not a fan of most the lottery quizzes myself - can't stand In it to Win It, but Who Dares Win is watchable enough. The problem is when they switch one Nick Knowles lottery show for another and they all look basically the same.

Winning Lines was the only one I'd go out of my way to watch (and as for the rest, I go out of my way to change the channel).

Well, Break The Safe isn't rubbish because it's a lottery show, it's rubbish because it's not a very good format. Same with Big Ticket and Red Alert.

Lottery quizzes tend to drag on longer than the usual 60 minute quiz. Just look at Who Dares Wins, it feels never ending. I don't see why they can't do the lottery draws after the game show or before.

Remember the Millennium draw, 2000 Today, that went, erm, kinda wrong?

Next November it will have been 25 years since House Party was first aired. I'd love to see the BBC do an anniversary show/series of NHP, provided Noel was up for it. If TFI Friday could do it, with Chris Evans being away from C4 for a while, the BBC can as well.

I've never felt Who Dares Wins is too long, it's shorter than Prized Apart and doesn't seem to drag to me. It's fifty minutes, and if you remove the lotto draws you get a show more or less the same length, if not slightly shorter, than Pointless. As for the lotto draws themselves, the Thunderball draw is about two minutes' long, where you can put the kettle on and go to the toilet, and the main lotto draw is indeed after the game, so you can switch off.

But again, even if Who Dares Wins does, in your opinion, drag on, that's nothing to do with it being a lottery quiz because Prized Apart drags on far longer and isn't one.

Yes it was posted on here a couple of weeks ago in another thread about Bob Monkhouse.