VM
There's a thread about it here: https://www.avforums.com/threads/bbc-hd-back-in-1990.223036/
SC
On this vid, there's an entertainer that should probably be on TV more. And also Noel Edmonds.
scottishtv
Founding member
Here's a better way to enjoy the interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEZLEUEH_QE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEZLEUEH_QE
On this vid, there's an entertainer that should probably be on TV more. And also Noel Edmonds.
BU
It was one night, as reported later in the week by Points of View
It was one of the programmes they trialled 14:9 on to gauge public opinion on having black bars on programmes. I think they did a whole Saturday night, maybe a few.
I doubt it was shot in 16:9, they presumably just put black bars on the output
I doubt it was shot in 16:9, they presumably just put black bars on the output
It was one of the programmes they trialled 14:9 on to gauge public opinion on having black bars on programmes. I think they did a whole Saturday night, maybe a few.
I doubt it was shot in 16:9, they presumably just put black bars on the output
I doubt it was shot in 16:9, they presumably just put black bars on the output
It was one night, as reported later in the week by Points of View
MA
Unless he had a 16:9 set, and was able to crop the picture down and have the vertical 14:9 bars instead - that would, at least, be some sort of improvement, if not in resolution.
Strikes me as a bizarre public experiment, though.
I like the person who is joyous because he finally gets to watch 'Houseparty' in "good honest widescreen", when in fact he was actually seeing less of the picture because they were just fake black bars.
Unless he had a 16:9 set, and was able to crop the picture down and have the vertical 14:9 bars instead - that would, at least, be some sort of improvement, if not in resolution.
Strikes me as a bizarre public experiment, though.
VM
Unless he had a 16:9 set, and was able to crop the picture down and have the vertical 14:9 bars instead - that would, at least, be some sort of improvement, if not in resolution.
Strikes me as a bizarre public experiment, though.
It still wouldn't be "honest" widescreen though, because as far as I know they were all 4:3 programmes that they just applied fake 14:9 black bars to in order to test viewer reactions to widescreen programming
I like the person who is joyous because he finally gets to watch 'Houseparty' in "good honest widescreen", when in fact he was actually seeing less of the picture because they were just fake black bars.
Unless he had a 16:9 set, and was able to crop the picture down and have the vertical 14:9 bars instead - that would, at least, be some sort of improvement, if not in resolution.
Strikes me as a bizarre public experiment, though.
It still wouldn't be "honest" widescreen though, because as far as I know they were all 4:3 programmes that they just applied fake 14:9 black bars to in order to test viewer reactions to widescreen programming
MA
Unless he had a 16:9 set, and was able to crop the picture down and have the vertical 14:9 bars instead - that would, at least, be some sort of improvement, if not in resolution.
Strikes me as a bizarre public experiment, though.
It still wouldn't be "honest" widescreen though, because as far as I know they were all 4:3 programmes that they just applied fake 14:9 black bars to in order to test viewer reactions to widescreen programming
Good point, well made. Very bizarre, really. Does anyone know why they did it? Surely it would have been better to begin 16:9 production first (as they would have had to at some point) and then work out how they would transmit on analogue (as Digital was separate continuity anyway at this point).
On the topic of widescreen treatment - I recall that right up until the mid-00s (or even later, but I stopped having the time to notice such things!) BBC Sport programmes would always be shown full-frame 4:3 centre cut-out on analogue, but send a flag on Freeview to deep-letterbox the picture (when on a 4:3 telly). Whereas, most analogue transmissions were 14:9 by that point, and the default flag on Freeview for a 4:3 telly was 14:9. I'm sure BBC Sport had a good reason for that transmission choice.
I like the person who is joyous because he finally gets to watch 'Houseparty' in "good honest widescreen", when in fact he was actually seeing less of the picture because they were just fake black bars.
Unless he had a 16:9 set, and was able to crop the picture down and have the vertical 14:9 bars instead - that would, at least, be some sort of improvement, if not in resolution.
Strikes me as a bizarre public experiment, though.
It still wouldn't be "honest" widescreen though, because as far as I know they were all 4:3 programmes that they just applied fake 14:9 black bars to in order to test viewer reactions to widescreen programming
Good point, well made. Very bizarre, really. Does anyone know why they did it? Surely it would have been better to begin 16:9 production first (as they would have had to at some point) and then work out how they would transmit on analogue (as Digital was separate continuity anyway at this point).
On the topic of widescreen treatment - I recall that right up until the mid-00s (or even later, but I stopped having the time to notice such things!) BBC Sport programmes would always be shown full-frame 4:3 centre cut-out on analogue, but send a flag on Freeview to deep-letterbox the picture (when on a 4:3 telly). Whereas, most analogue transmissions were 14:9 by that point, and the default flag on Freeview for a 4:3 telly was 14:9. I'm sure BBC Sport had a good reason for that transmission choice.
WH
Whataday
Founding member
This seems to shed a bit more light about NHP in HD:
http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/6581
http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/6581
LL
I have a horrible feeling he doesn't know about this and just takes the Sega Mega Drive interpretation of "high definition" which is just "doesn't look like crap". The three episodes currently on the Noel's House Party channel have a 720p option but they are most definitely not 720p quality. One of them isn't even in the right aspect ratio.
Frankly I'd settle for SD quality if we could get 50fps and get that "live" feeling back.
Frankly I'd settle for SD quality if we could get 50fps and get that "live" feeling back.
DA
Frankly I'd settle for SD quality if we could get 50fps and get that "live" feeling back.
YouTube can support 50fps - though, slightly ironically, only at 720p or above.
Frankly I'd settle for SD quality if we could get 50fps and get that "live" feeling back.
YouTube can support 50fps - though, slightly ironically, only at 720p or above.
LL
Does that apply to 60fps as well? Because the trailer for Captain America: Civil War has been uploaded in 4K running at 60fps.