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Should there be a Mr Bobby? Is this how there decided to bring him back full time?

Johnr438 posts since 6 Apr 2004
For anyone that missed it, Noel was actually on All Round To Mrs Brown's the Saturday just gone, not that Noel himself will be able to watch it back considering he boycotted the TV license Wink
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JKDerry1,603 posts since 15 Oct 2016
UTV Newsline
What a pile of garbage the House Party was by 1997.

Truly by series 6 the show was dead. I have always said, they should have ended either at the conclusion of Series 4 in March 1995 when it was at its true peak, or of they must have continued, they should have ended with the 100th episode, end of Series 5 in March 1996. By March 1996 the show had reached its limit.

The relaunch of October 1996 ruined every aspect of the House Party, which it never recovered from.
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It get worse with series 7
buster1,753 posts since 15 Mar 2006
London London
Had a quick scan through, good that he came away with a fairly positive impression. He's chanced on a period in the show's history which is already arguably past it's best, and certainly probably the most parodied, but still an entertaining watch and it's hard to not get carried along with it.
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Parker24 posts since 16 May 2019 new member
Noel has good ideas which translate into good all round entertaining television. It works. The problem is with BBC attitudes to programme production demarcation. Too many BBC suits have too much say over creative matters, to which they are not remotely qualified interfere or control. Until the BBC put the programme makers back in charge f programming there will be no creative telly of any nature. You cannot produce good programming with focus group and marketing charts.
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Hatton Cross3,222 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
It works.. Up to a point.
Then the audience get bored with it - and the default position to fix it, is,
1- new theme tune,
2- rework existing ideas and hope no-one notices,
and
3- do it on a redesigned and larger set with plenty of opportunities to indulge in pointless bouts of walking about for no particular reason.

I would point you in the direction of the unnecessary reboot of Telly Addicts as a case study.
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Steve Williams2,720 posts since 1 Aug 2008
Noel has good ideas which translate into good all round entertaining television. It works. The problem is with BBC attitudes to programme production demarcation. Too many BBC suits have too much say over creative matters, to which they are not remotely qualified interfere or control. Until the BBC put the programme makers back in charge f programming there will be no creative telly of any nature. You cannot produce good programming with focus group and marketing charts.


Well, maybe, although I would certainly suggest the main reason the House Party declined spectacularly was because Noel had got too distracted over business and financial issues and had got distracted from the show. In his book, Will Wyatt refers to some fraught production meetings with Noel where he implies they spent more time discussing who owned what in the show than anything that happened in it, and Paul Jackson mentioned on The Fight For Saturday Night that he thought Noel wasn't really contributing much to the show's ideas anymore. So I'm not sure it's a great example to use.

I know Noel said that the Beeb kept on cutting the budget and so forth, and obviously you can believe who you like, but to me it mirrored the downfall of Chris Evans at the same time - he seemed more concerned with settling scores and arguing over money and resources than he did in what actually happened on the show.