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And other Noel-related gubbins, by the looks of it (January 2018)

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SC
scottishtv Founding member
Edmonds has turned into a right bore, hasn't he? This is proper Alan Partridge stuff from him.

The Sunday Times posted:
Noel Edmonds blows a gasket over BBC ‘deception’ in Eight Go Rallying endurance race show

It was billed by the BBC as a gruelling challenge in which teams of celebrities would compete in a classic endurance rally as they raced across almost 2,500 miles of rice fields, jungle tracks and treacherous mountains in southeast Asia.

In fact, two of the participants had not yet passed their driving test, another was too big for their car and a fourth rolled their Mini over on its roof. On the final leg of the race through Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam, two competitors made it across the finishing line only as passengers in a taxi. They and their bemused driver were garlanded with flowers in a chequered-flag ceremony.

As the road trip descended into the unintended slapstick of a reality show, the television presenter Noel Edmonds, who has a background in amateur rally car racing, was fuming. Indeed, he left the wrap party organised to celebrate the end of filming because he suspected the karaoke bar where it was being held was actually a brothel.

On his return to the UK he complained to Patrick Holland, controller of BBC2, and the show’s independent production company, Optomen, best known for its cookery programmes.

In its press release in January, the BBC had boasted that the four-part series, Eight Go Rallying — The Road to Saigon?, which begins on August 19, would involve the celebrities competing against “30 other vintage car enthusiasts as part of the Endurance Rally Association’s [ERA] Road to Saigon competition”.

Edmonds, however, said they were not allowed to do so and the celebrities were ordered not to compete against each other, following the early mishaps.

He questioned the BBC claim that they would get close to the local culture by “staying in some one-of-a-kind accommodation” as they drove through tribal areas of Vietnam, remarking drily: “I doubt the Sofitel, Hyatt and other five-star hotels we stayed in would be comfortable with this description.”

Edmonds, 69, said he also gently punctured the BBC’s claim that it would be an “epic adventure”, saying: “Ignoring the very high temperatures, we’ve experienced more ‘adventure’ driving down to Tesco.”

He said he regularly rejects lucrative offers to appear in reality shows, such as I’m a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!, but he and his wife, Liz, accepted this offer because they were assured it was going to be very different.

He maintains that the mishaps that led Optomen to abandon the competitive element could have been averted.

The BBC strongly disagrees with Edmonds’s frustrations. In a statement it said: “The programme was produced with input from industry experts and in accordance with relevant health and safety guidance. If Noel had waited to see the programme first, we hope he’d agree that far from deceiving viewers the programme faithfully follows the celebrities on their adventure — and yes, it was gruelling. As viewers will see, when ‘mishaps’ happened during the course of the filming, this is reflected in the programme. With reference to two of the celebrities not having driving licences, it is common practice in ERA rallies for teams to include a non-driving navigator with no requirement for a licence. In a demanding drive like this, it’s not surprising that not all the original cars made it to the end — as viewers will see.

“Whilst the road trip may not have felt ‘epic’ or ‘unique’ to Noel, to the average person it would be a privilege to take part in such a trip for a TV programme.”

It said there is “no truth” in the claim that the wrap party had been held in a brothel: “It was a karaoke bar in a four-star hotel.”

It said Edmonds’s contract made it clear that the celebrities would not be competing against participants in the official rally: “The other participants remain positive about their experience and we think viewers will enjoy the programme.”
EL
elmarko
He’s nuts. The cancer cure thing was the final straw.

I like his passion for this banking crusade he’s on though. Fair play to him for that.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Noel was clearly a great talent through the 70s to the 90s, yet the axing of House Party changed him and left him like a typical commercial radio presenter from the ILR era, a tad bitter and twisted about how the industry has evolved.

22 days later

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A former member
It's the start of season 5. Wait till get you home has changed. Beat your neighbour has turned up. It's the last decent series but the peak had already been reached. Im sure this is the series were Noel catches a member of the studio phoning for grab a grand...

JK
JKDerry
Series 5 was where it should have taken a break, and like SNT come back in a year or so. But no, they went on and on. I remember the finale of this season, and it was the last time we heard the proper House Party theme. They ditched it for the autumn 1996 relaunch and that was it for me.

They restructured the show, had terrible music theme, and the whole show went off the rails for me from 1996 onwards. My best memories of the show, is watching it with my mum and dad from 1992-1994.
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A former member
I have to agree, there should have had a year off and come back with some proper stern formats. THere ruined grab a grand... Plus people say there cut cost, will Beat you neighbour cant have been cheap...

One youtube user sums it up so well:

Quote:

Now, I think we've undoubted arrived at the point where Noel's House Party heads downward. And if my memory has it right, it's a very steep descent indeed. First point of annoyance, that silly business of pretending that the viewers are joining the party in full swing. It doesn't give the show a proper opening sequence, the audience are cold because they haven't been through the true motion of the show starting up. And even more annoyingly, what's with Noel writing cheques his crinkley bottom couldn't cash? We're promised Number Crunching, Wait 'Til I Get You Home, a trip around the great house, an appearance by the kiddies' favourite Mr Blobby. We end up not getting any of them! What happened here?

...Oh, and don't be fooled into thinking that they ran out of time on the Michael Winner gunging-that-wasn't. It was intentional. Irritatingly intentional. It was that whole business of pretending that the party extends beyond the boundaries of the schedule. But it's confusing, makes the show look unprofessional for seemingly running over, and makes you feel robbed of something you probably wanted to watch. They basically deliberately made the show feel like it was failing. Wow, not good

And here's where the features begin to dry up. Beat Your Neighbour was a very weak segment, stretched out too far. Wait until they get Jono Coleman involved, you'll see how much worse it can get. There's a bizarrely elaborate NTV which fails to deliver the basic essence of the feature, a mediocre Gotcha, a revamped Grab-A-Grand which gets ridiculous as the series progresses. And that's really it. Only four regular features in a fifty minute show.

Fascinating to relive what went wrong with the show. It's obvious from a viewers' perspective, yet somehow the producers didn't seem to latch on that they were damaging it with half-baked twists to the familiar format. This is the point, right here, as Garry Bushell later said, that someone at the top should have had the courage to speak up and admit that it was going wrong.
BU
buster
The "party never stops" idea was ridiculous and self-defeating. It looks crap at the start (look at all this stuff you've missed). It looked messy at the end (as they genuinely had come close to losing the end of the show previously, so why wind people up that it has happened for real?). They genuinely did get cut off in early 1996 when they couldn't get hold of the Grab a Grand caller. Were we supposed to find that funny too? I presume the plugging of stuff you don't get to see is part of the same gag (Wait Till We All Get Home, Number Cruncher, Blobby etc).

Beat Your Neighbour is just boring, it doesn't feel like it should have a place on the show especially as it takes up so much time.

Fortunately all this nonsense is dropped a few weeks in and it does become a much better show by the start of 1996. The house also gets some rather colourful lighting additions which look quite good.

I often defend series 6, because compared to the above it's quite consistent and in some ways back to basics.
JO
Johnr
I just watched the start of the episode and it felt about as flat as a bottle of coke that had been opened for a week, Noel also sounds knackered/bored especially considering it is the first show of a new series!

It's quite interesting how you could say the same sort of production mistakes were to later be made with Deal Or No Deal, which towards the end of the run became an unbearable 40 minutes of Noel and the contestants pratting around with about 10 minutes of actual gameplay chucked in! Which was a shame, as despite it just being a game about boxes it had some genuinely good ideas at times (theme weeks until they became overkill, live shows, on tour shows, heck even the celebrity specials were quite good!)
JK
JKDerry
Johnr posted:
I just watched the start of the episode and it felt about as flat as a bottle of coke that had been opened for a week, Noel also sounds knackered/bored especially considering it is the first show of a new series!

It's quite interesting how you could say the same sort of production mistakes were to later be made with Deal Or No Deal, which towards the end of the run became an unbearable 40 minutes of Noel and the contestants pratting around with about 10 minutes of actual gameplay chucked in! Which was a shame, as despite it just being a game about boxes it had some genuinely good ideas at times (theme weeks until they became overkill, live shows, on tour shows, heck even the celebrity specials were quite good!)

Deal or No Deal was good from 2006 - 2010. When the show stuck to its original 45 minute format at 4.15pm on weekdays, made it special. The theme weeks were also good in the early years, as it took you through the year, and made you felt the show was part of your daily routine. Halloween, Christmas, Love Week, Easter, Banker's Birthday and the end of season Summer specials were good, as they were only for a week at a time.


From around 2011 the show got so huge it was inevitable that they would start wriggling the format, doing live editions, and then in 2012 bringing in celebrities (Noel has said that celebrities were not welcome in the first five years or so, but then in 2012 Channel 4 forced him, as ratings were sliding). Remember the 2014 "Box 23" change also?

By 2015, Noel and the production were face with the same problems as House Party faced in 1997. The show became boring, predictable. Channel 4 did not help, by moving it to the death slot of 2pm, and then of course suddenly dropped all specials, themed weeks, because their excuse "Channel 4 Racing could not tell us the exacts dates they are going to be on during the course of the year, and so we can not plan for these special weeks, in case we would not be on, so the themed specials are now abandoned and we will be doing some better specials at Christmas instead). That was it for me.

You never know, unlike House Party, I have a feeling Deal or No Deal will return, maybe with a new host, new set, maybe in 2019? Whereas House Party has been taken over by SNT.
JA
JAS84
C4 Racing is a stupid excuse, considering that the racing shortly after moved to ITV.
JK
JKDerry
JAS84 posted:
C4 Racing is a stupid excuse, considering that the racing shortly after moved to ITV.

It is the excuse they gave to me in reply to my email about the future of the show in 2015.
HC
Hatton Cross
"Channel 4 racing could not tell us the exact dates they are going to be on during the year.."

What utter tosh from Channel 4.
The racing calendar is finalised in the middle of the previous year.
C4 Racing was nothing if not predictable. I could have told them when they would be on the air on a weekday.

Mainly..
New Years Day (Cheltenham)
Tuesday - Friday of the third week on March (Cheltenham Festival)
Thursday and Friday of the second week of April (Grand National meeting)
Thursday and Friday 1st/2nd week of May
(Newmarket Guineas meeting)
Tuesday - Friday 3rd week of June (Royal Ascot)
Tuesday - Friday 1st week of August (Glorious Goodwood)
Tuesday - Friday 3rd week of August
Ebior Festival, York)


No Deal, Noel..

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