after watching the documentary on not the nine o clock news, followed by an episode of the show, they both finished on the same song over which was played the end credits to each programme.
what I'm curious to know is how did they remove the end credits off the original programme and put the end credits to the documentary on the same piece of footage.
I would assume the only recorded footage of the song is how it appeared as broadcast with the closing credits on it, or can you take footage of a tv programme with credits over them and remove them
It would be very difficult to remove the end credits (though I dare say not impossible, if you were prepared to throw enough money at it). I'd have thought the simple explantion is that there was a clean version available in the archive. Not entirely unlikely, as by the 80s videotape was not as hugely expensive as it had once been and the practice of wiping and reusing as much VT as possible had been largely abandoned. Even at this stage in home-video entertainment and given the huge commercial success of Not the Nine, it's highly likely that clean versions of sketches like this would have been archived along with the TX Masters so that videos, compliations, re-edits etc would be readily available.
The documentary spoke of a complitation video being made at the time by Rowan Atkinson himself. Maybe that clip was included in that or something similar without graphics.
The subtitles on the episode of Not the Nine o'clock News (subtitled in 1995) said "kinda lingers" but the documentary subtitles had "cunnilingus" which kind of missed the point of the joke.
I would have thought it was a separate music video but I doubt that was the case. I also noticed the date at the end of the episode ended in V, which is a '5'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but NTNO'CN ran from '79-82'?
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The "episode" was in fact a compilation. AFAIK no actual eps have been repeated in many years, much to my annoyance. Hence the 1995 copyright.
It would be very difficult to remove the end credits (though I dare say not impossible, if you were prepared to throw enough money at it). I'd have thought the simple explantion is that there was a clean version available in the archive. Not entirely unlikely, as by the 80s videotape was not as hugely expensive as it had once been and the practice of wiping and reusing as much VT as possible had been largely abandoned. Even at this stage in home-video entertainment and given the huge commercial success of Not the Nine, it's highly likely that clean versions of sketches like this would have been archived along with the TX Masters so that videos, compliations, re-edits etc would be readily available.
that would make sence, thanks for the answer
just a bit odd seeing the same song with different credits rolling over it.
didn't know the 'episode' they shown was a 1995 compilation, considering the sucess of the series you'd think they'd show a full episode
didn't know Chris Langham was in it either
I know why he was unavailable for interview though
that would make sence, thanks for the answer just a bit odd seeing the same song with different credits rolling over it.
didn't know the 'episode' they shown was a 1995 compilation, considering the sucess of the series you'd think they'd show a full episode didn't know Chris Langham was in it either I know why he was unavailable for interview though
He thourght he was now out of prison,?
Even the DVDs are the 8 1995 compilations epsoides, there really should release the whole lot on to DVD
This particular compilation was not shown back in 1995 with the others. It looks like the BBC replaced some sketches, move others and re-edited others. The 'Kinda Lingers' song (complete with newly-added credits) was lifted from one of the original 1995 comp episodes.
However, the original 1982 screening of 'Kinda Lingers' did not feature any credits, as they had already been run over an earlier sketch.
The 1995 date got me wondering too. This also featured the spoof BBC2 closedown with a nice aside from Peter Offer over a next slide immediately after saying "and you wouldn't know just how close to the truth that is!"
The 1995 date got me wondering too. This also featured the spoof BBC2 closedown with a nice aside from Peter Offer over a next slide immediately after saying "and you wouldn't know just how close to the truth that is!"
That closedown is legendary, although what I didn't know until a year or 2 ago, on the actual full episode (that was on YouTube, don't think it is now) the clip starts with the =2= logo on-screen with Rowan saying on BBC1 it's the Nine O'Clock News, suddenly when the caption falls down and you see Rowan at the same point, shame they never kept that in the compilations.
I couldn't help but notice not too long ago from watching one of the compilation episodes on Comedy Central, they edited an end scene with Chris Langham (playing a Policeman), the episode ended on the sketch before, with the current BBC logo, but copyrighted to 1995.
I know why he was unavailable for interview though
I thought it was wrong how Langham was slagged off so harshly in the documentary. It's perhaps understandable that the BBC wouldn't want him taking part in the documentary (although I can imagine a phobia of the Daily Mail's inevitable response would have played a large part in it), but if you take away someone's right to reply you can't just declare open season on them like that. I don't think John Lloyd's vitriolic (and possibly libellous) comments about Langham should have been included in the documentary.
I did wonder if they were being a bit mean to him, just because he did something highly illegal twenty odd years later doesn't mean he was bad back then, although from what was said he didn't exactly make any friends if he was trying to rule the roost
I assumed he wasn't on the programme because he was still in prison which isn't the case so I agree that he should have been in it, unless of course he didn't want to be
I always thought the kinda lingers song was done at the end of the last ever episode with the credits over it
