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They always say that even now!
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/nightscreen1998n.jpg
Good example to those people who say ITV is getting worse. Back in 1998, The Freddie Starr Show which doesn't sound that appealing and a film split by a 40 minute news break, I much prefer today's line up
To the poster above, what happened first, the change from Teletext to "Powerpoint" or the change from IT* to itv
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nwtv2003 posted:
As requested ITV Nightscreen 1998 style.....
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/nightscreen1998a.jpg
Tim Wilcox with the Classic: "That's it more News later"
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/nightscreen1998a.jpg
Tim Wilcox with the Classic: "That's it more News later"
They always say that even now!
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/nightscreen1998n.jpg
Good example to those people who say ITV is getting worse. Back in 1998, The Freddie Starr Show which doesn't sound that appealing and a film split by a 40 minute news break, I much prefer today's line up
To the poster above, what happened first, the change from Teletext to "Powerpoint" or the change from IT* to itv
NW
I was just fortunate that the Video overran when I taped a repeat of the F1 Grand Prix from sometime in 1998. Last time I taped Nightscreen was in 2001, when ITV changed to ITV1, with no mention of that. Otherwise I haven't watched it in years.
I also forgot to mention that the image I posted with the Stars and nothing else appears on screen for at least a minute until something happens!
james2001 posted:
I have 3 full nightscreens from 1998 on video (never taped any others since!). 2 from when it first started, and one from later in the year (after the logo changed). One of them mentions "Mashed" and GMTV's brand new show "Diggit"! Ouch, how time flies!
I was just fortunate that the Video overran when I taped a repeat of the F1 Grand Prix from sometime in 1998. Last time I taped Nightscreen was in 2001, when ITV changed to ITV1, with no mention of that. Otherwise I haven't watched it in years.
I also forgot to mention that the image I posted with the Stars and nothing else appears on screen for at least a minute until something happens!
R2
The thing is with BBC Learning Zone is that it is intended for school students to tape the programme and then replay it in Bitesize chunks for revision. That's what I suggest to my students for their GCSEs (I am a teacher) as I make the same comment that it you would be wasting your time getting up in the middle of the night when you won't be able to remember it anyway.
In response to your comment, it's likely to get low ratings because people record it not watch it live.
In response to your comment, it's likely to get low ratings because people record it not watch it live.
NW
That's the whole point of Learning Zone, its supposed to encourage people to record the programmes, though I would believe that it's very low watched. I guess it's good for the insomniacs who aren't keen on BBC News 24 or Trisha. The only time I watched it for no reason was when I woke up at 5.00am once a few years ago, a documentary about Safeway's self-scanning device.
Though one would presume that LZ would probably get half the ratings that BBC1 or ITV1 would have.
r2ro posted:
The thing is with BBC Learning Zone is that it is intended for school students to tape the programme and then replay it in Bitesize chunks for revision. That's what I suggest to my students for their GCSEs (I am a teacher) as I make the same comment that it you would be wasting your time getting up in the middle of the night when you won't be able to remember it anyway.
In response to your comment, it's likely to get low ratings because people record it not watch it live.
In response to your comment, it's likely to get low ratings because people record it not watch it live.
That's the whole point of Learning Zone, its supposed to encourage people to record the programmes, though I would believe that it's very low watched. I guess it's good for the insomniacs who aren't keen on BBC News 24 or Trisha. The only time I watched it for no reason was when I woke up at 5.00am once a few years ago, a documentary about Safeway's self-scanning device.
Though one would presume that LZ would probably get half the ratings that BBC1 or ITV1 would have.
TV
Wonder how these 200,000 people coped pre-1997?
The fact is, they did, so they could again.
Dan posted:
Nightscreen registers as 100,000 viewers and News 24 as 200,000. The total number of people watching television at that time is about 700,000.
Wonder how these 200,000 people coped pre-1997?
The fact is, they did, so they could again.
NW
Wonder how these 200,000 people coped pre-1997?
The fact is, they did, so they could again.
Yes, very true, but by 1997 BBC1 was rather out of touch as all of the other Terrestrial channels were 24 hours, now BBC1 wouldn't fill this will programming, it would be a waste of the licence fee. But IMO it makes good sense to have a rolling News channel to fill out BBC1's dead hours, as it is useful and is more useful than galloping dandruff and dare I say Pages From Ceefax.
Many people such as night workers and insomniacs probably value News 24's existance on BBC1 overnight, it keeps them constantly informed, the next best thing on terrestrial being ITV News' Summaries every other hour or so.
The Licence Fee has to cater for all needs and try to satisfy most viewers, especially those who might watch Night Time TV, who used to didn't get value for money, as both BBC1 and BBC2 showed galloping dandruff onscreen.
tvarksouthwest posted:
Dan posted:
Nightscreen registers as 100,000 viewers and News 24 as 200,000. The total number of people watching television at that time is about 700,000.
Wonder how these 200,000 people coped pre-1997?
The fact is, they did, so they could again.
Yes, very true, but by 1997 BBC1 was rather out of touch as all of the other Terrestrial channels were 24 hours, now BBC1 wouldn't fill this will programming, it would be a waste of the licence fee. But IMO it makes good sense to have a rolling News channel to fill out BBC1's dead hours, as it is useful and is more useful than galloping dandruff and dare I say Pages From Ceefax.
Many people such as night workers and insomniacs probably value News 24's existance on BBC1 overnight, it keeps them constantly informed, the next best thing on terrestrial being ITV News' Summaries every other hour or so.
The Licence Fee has to cater for all needs and try to satisfy most viewers, especially those who might watch Night Time TV, who used to didn't get value for money, as both BBC1 and BBC2 showed galloping dandruff onscreen.
TV
It's worth remembering when BBC1 did go 24 hours, it came not too long after C4 did so. In any case they weren't showing Ceefax through the night; just 15 minutes prior to startup!
Don't forget BBC2 was not really 24 hours in 1997 - only the Learning Zone was keeping the channel on air continuously, and if the Learning Zone was not on they shut up shop. BBC2 might not be "officially" 24 hours even now. If BBC1 is showing News 24 at an awkward gap there is sometimes no option but to take a break.
Well I'm afraid this seems to be a concept Mr Luxton has always had great difficulty in grasping.
Many of my rants are because I value this principle - if they are publicly funded the BBC should resist the temptation to do something "because everyone else does" and take more risks. That's not to say BBC1 should be boring - far from it - but sometimes I feel they worry too much about the BARB figures.
nwtv2003 posted:
[Yes, very true, but by 1997 BBC1 was rather out of touch as all of the other Terrestrial channels were 24 hours, now BBC1 wouldn't fill this will programming, it would be a waste of the licence fee. But IMO it makes good sense to have a rolling News channel to fill out BBC1's dead hours, as it is useful and is more useful than galloping dandruff and dare I say Pages From Ceefax.
It's worth remembering when BBC1 did go 24 hours, it came not too long after C4 did so. In any case they weren't showing Ceefax through the night; just 15 minutes prior to startup!
Don't forget BBC2 was not really 24 hours in 1997 - only the Learning Zone was keeping the channel on air continuously, and if the Learning Zone was not on they shut up shop. BBC2 might not be "officially" 24 hours even now. If BBC1 is showing News 24 at an awkward gap there is sometimes no option but to take a break.
TVDragon posted:
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The Licence Fee has to cater for all needs and try to satisfy most viewers
Well I'm afraid this seems to be a concept Mr Luxton has always had great difficulty in grasping.
Many of my rants are because I value this principle - if they are publicly funded the BBC should resist the temptation to do something "because everyone else does" and take more risks. That's not to say BBC1 should be boring - far from it - but sometimes I feel they worry too much about the BARB figures.
TV
Well I'm afraid this seems to be a concept Mr * has always had great difficulty in grasping.
Many of my rants are because I value this principle - if they are publicly funded the BBC should resist the temptation to do something "because everyone else does" and take more risks. That's not to say BBC1 should be boring - far from it - but sometimes I feel they worry too much about the BARB figures.
But what you don't ever seem to grasp is that those are not the reasons for N24 being shown overnight.
I'm also sure there are many things we did without before 1997, but some of them actually make tv better now.
Whether it fits in with your life structure or not, N24 is far more valuable to more people at that time of night than static.
tvarksouthwest posted:
TVDragon posted:
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The Licence Fee has to cater for all needs and try to satisfy most viewers
Well I'm afraid this seems to be a concept Mr * has always had great difficulty in grasping.
Many of my rants are because I value this principle - if they are publicly funded the BBC should resist the temptation to do something "because everyone else does" and take more risks. That's not to say BBC1 should be boring - far from it - but sometimes I feel they worry too much about the BARB figures.
But what you don't ever seem to grasp is that those are not the reasons for N24 being shown overnight.
I'm also sure there are many things we did without before 1997, but some of them actually make tv better now.
Whether it fits in with your life structure or not, N24 is far more valuable to more people at that time of night than static.