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(July 2003)

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PE
Pete Founding member
Marcus posted:
snarfu posted:
James posted:
News 24 is simply the UK arm of BBC World, although it itself is fully finanically independent of World.

Personally Sky News is getting boring. Almost predictable.

You can bet your bottom dollar that when World launch in the U.S. that Fox will slate it constantly. Of course, all publicity is good publicity.


BBC News produces news for both BBC News 24 and BBC World. News 24 is not the UK arm of BBC World. BBC World is a channel owned by BBC Worldwide. BBC News is simply a supplier to that channel. Likewise BBC News is a supplier to BBC News 24 and is a provider of news bullitens to BBC 1/2 (In theory, although unthinkable, the BBC could look to other providers for their news service).


Actually News24 is one of two channels actually run by BBC News rather than by BBC Broadcast. This is why it has no presentation suite.


and is such a dreadful channel. Look at the trailers for goodness sake. urgh.
MA
Marcus Founding member
Hymagumba posted:
Marcus posted:
snarfu posted:
James posted:
News 24 is simply the UK arm of BBC World, although it itself is fully finanically independent of World.

Personally Sky News is getting boring. Almost predictable.

You can bet your bottom dollar that when World launch in the U.S. that Fox will slate it constantly. Of course, all publicity is good publicity.


BBC News produces news for both BBC News 24 and BBC World. News 24 is not the UK arm of BBC World. BBC World is a channel owned by BBC Worldwide. BBC News is simply a supplier to that channel. Likewise BBC News is a supplier to BBC News 24 and is a provider of news bullitens to BBC 1/2 (In theory, although unthinkable, the BBC could look to other providers for their news service).


Actually News24 is one of two channels actually run by BBC News rather than by BBC Broadcast. This is why it has no presentation suite.


and is such a dreadful channel. Look at the trailers for goodness sake. urgh.


Although the trailers are supplied to the channel and scheduled by BBC Broadcast
MD
mdtauk
BBC World is brilliant in my opinion, much closer to Sky News IMO.

BBC World puts BBC News 24 to shame, both in urgency, presentation, interest and style. If only they followed a UK agenda, it could replace BBC News 24 and show that the BBC are capable of producing ingaging, interesting News Presentation.

I am looking forward to seeing the changes on News 24. As many forumers will remember I had nothing but praise for BBC News 24 3 years ago, but when Sky News relaunched, I converted, and had always hoped the BBC would out do them. But as the News industry has started to reform since recent events, News 24 has stayed in the past and then stole ideas from other broadcasters...

Animated straps and OSG - Copied from Sky
Interactive Screens - Copied from Sky
Votes and Phone Ins - Copied from Sky
The upcoming permanent Ticker - Copied from ITV News Channel
(Who copied the Ticker from Sky News in Vote 2001 coverage)
Animated Icons on Straps - Copied from Sky News when they ditched the idea...

For the amount of money BBC News has to spend, they should be able to out do Sky News. Yes they produce more bulletins, but if they shared more resources, similar to ITVnews at present, they could be the best in the UK.
RE
Re-it-er-ate
I think people wish for banter between the presenters too much. I find it very irritating, especially with Anna Botting when she starts cackling and high pitched squealing for 5 minutes instead of reading the actual story.
PE
Pete Founding member
Marcus posted:
Although the trailers are supplied to the channel and scheduled by BBC Broadcast


You are joking? Are they done on the cheap or something.

Although thinking about it the graphics on the trailers can be very nice - no they can't be done by BBC News then.
BE
benjy
MrTomServo posted:
snarfu posted:
I think the style is not so bad. At least it does not have the worst elements that Sky News has. ie more screen clutter or the horrid 'whooshing' noises. At the moment it is a work in progress and over time they will tweak it.


But what I don't understand is why can't they get it to a point where it is reasonably good before putting it on air? I mean, sending it out live when it's half-baked really looks tacky. Especially with the wrong fonts and no transparency.

Come on BBC ... get it together.



I agree - the on-the-phone aston in use today is appauling - it covers the red headline aston and the text is terribly aligned.

It looks like someone just bodged it up in two minutes last night so they could go home early...
BL
Blob
eek Shocked , thats awful
MQ
Mr Q
I'd ask for caps, but judging by the reaction, I'm not sure I want to!

I take it though that there's no sign of the ticker yet?
:-(
A former member
snarfu posted:
BBC News produces news for both BBC News 24 and BBC World. News 24 is not the UK arm of BBC World. BBC World is a channel owned by BBC Worldwide. BBC News is simply a supplier to that channel. Likewise BBC News is a supplier to BBC News 24 and is a provider of news bullitens to BBC 1/2 (In theory, although unthinkable, the BBC could look to other providers for their news service).
You forgot that BBC News also produces S4C Newyddion.
CA
cat
Marcus posted:
This is hilarious. You really think 80 million people watch Sky News! Don't forget News24 has far far more viewers than Sky, because it has the advantage of being put on BBC1 in this country and BBC World around the Globe.

During the war up to 10 Million were watching the News24 specials in this country alone.

And don't forget the global; reach of BBC World Service radio, and the BBC News website


No, dear, I think you might've misunderstood. Let me explain again.

1) I didn't even bring the WS into the equation - you did. I think the World Service is absolutely wonderful, and one of the few things at the moment that the BBC can be truly proud of. By equal measure, Five Live is excellent, although in fairness has no real competition.

2) I did not say that 80 million viewers watched Sky News, I just gave a figure with no comment on it whatsoever. More people watch Sky News as a 24 hour news channel than BBC News 24. Don't give me the sh-te about it being on BBC World; people in Singapore, South Africa and Switzerland tune in to watch BBC World, not BBC News 24, the same is applicable to its simulcast on BBC One.

You distortion of the figures, Marcus, is what's amusing, not my comments. BBC ONE and BBC WORLD have far, far more viewers than Sky News... BBC NEWS 24 as a single standing entity does not.

It is dull, lifeless and dreary. What I find so disturbing Marcus is that an employee doesn't recognise that - with your attitude (seemingly thinking there's nothing wrong with it) it is never going to make the sort of progress the BBC so desperately want.
CA
cat
Digifiend posted:
snarfu posted:
BBC News produces news for both BBC News 24 and BBC World. News 24 is not the UK arm of BBC World. BBC World is a channel owned by BBC Worldwide. BBC News is simply a supplier to that channel. Likewise BBC News is a supplier to BBC News 24 and is a provider of news bullitens to BBC 1/2 (In theory, although unthinkable, the BBC could look to other providers for their news service).
You forgot that BBC News also produces S4C Newyddion.


*cough*

bureaucracy

*ahem cough, splutter*
:-(
A former member
c@t posted:
You distortion of the figures, Marcus, is what's amusing, not my comments. BBC ONE and BBC WORLD have far, far more viewers than Sky News... BBC NEWS 24 as a single standing entity does not.
That's because Sky News is over a decade old - more than twice as old as BBC News 24!

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