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You guess wrong I'm afraid (always dangerous to guess!)
Working Lunch launched in the early-to-mid 90s - it has been going 13 or 14 years AIUI. It originally came from N3 (which was a tiny 3rd news studio used for backup) with an entirely CSO studio (amazingly from the same style of desk as was used for the One/Six/Nine at the time) using the same (not quite) virtual system as the cut-glass news used at the time, but rather than cut glass walls they used a loft apartment feel. It moved into the same, new, studio as Breakfast and Newsnight when Breakfast left the studio it once shared with the One/Six/Nine in 1997.
I would guess too that any loss of viewers in the last couple of years is more to do with Adrian Chiles moving on than anything with the format itself.
To a degree yes - though AIUI the audience has been getting steadily older for a while now - which isn't healthy for any show.
I think that some bits of the BBC have probably realised that the show hadn't really recovered from losing Adrian - and that carrying on with the same format, but with a different main presenter - was probably not working. Adrian was a tough act to follow.
(Would have been interesting if Paddy O'Connell had been appointed to replace Adrian - he's arguably a much more competent and watchable presenter than Nik Wood - who is a very good reporter, but never seemed at ease as a presenter)
However it's a programme that's never going to have mass appeal, and it's inevitable therefore that if they do attempt to appeal to the masses they will lose their focus, and hence lose their existing audience - without picking up any extra viewers.
I don't think they are aiming for a mass appeal - just a wider appeal than before. Exactly the same argument that was used when they replaced Westminster Live with The Daily Politics. Shows on BBC Two in the daytime aren't ever going to be beating The X Factor or Strictly - but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take a look at things every once in a while.
And badly timed too - considering the state of the world at the moment I'd have thought they'd be more viewers than ever wanting accessible, but informed, analysis of the situation.
Well if they are aiming to increase the audience - they will probably have benefited from the current news situation.
They have a huge asset in Declan - who is a very natural communicator.
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Brekkie posted:
Working Lunch isn't that old - I would guess it only pre-dates the Daily Politics by a few years.
You guess wrong I'm afraid (always dangerous to guess!)
Working Lunch launched in the early-to-mid 90s - it has been going 13 or 14 years AIUI. It originally came from N3 (which was a tiny 3rd news studio used for backup) with an entirely CSO studio (amazingly from the same style of desk as was used for the One/Six/Nine at the time) using the same (not quite) virtual system as the cut-glass news used at the time, but rather than cut glass walls they used a loft apartment feel. It moved into the same, new, studio as Breakfast and Newsnight when Breakfast left the studio it once shared with the One/Six/Nine in 1997.
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I would guess too that any loss of viewers in the last couple of years is more to do with Adrian Chiles moving on than anything with the format itself.
To a degree yes - though AIUI the audience has been getting steadily older for a while now - which isn't healthy for any show.
I think that some bits of the BBC have probably realised that the show hadn't really recovered from losing Adrian - and that carrying on with the same format, but with a different main presenter - was probably not working. Adrian was a tough act to follow.
(Would have been interesting if Paddy O'Connell had been appointed to replace Adrian - he's arguably a much more competent and watchable presenter than Nik Wood - who is a very good reporter, but never seemed at ease as a presenter)
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However it's a programme that's never going to have mass appeal, and it's inevitable therefore that if they do attempt to appeal to the masses they will lose their focus, and hence lose their existing audience - without picking up any extra viewers.
I don't think they are aiming for a mass appeal - just a wider appeal than before. Exactly the same argument that was used when they replaced Westminster Live with The Daily Politics. Shows on BBC Two in the daytime aren't ever going to be beating The X Factor or Strictly - but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take a look at things every once in a while.
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And badly timed too - considering the state of the world at the moment I'd have thought they'd be more viewers than ever wanting accessible, but informed, analysis of the situation.
Well if they are aiming to increase the audience - they will probably have benefited from the current news situation.
They have a huge asset in Declan - who is a very natural communicator.
