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"Watch this space" as BBC Creative respond to ident change request (December 2016)

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Charlie Gough
People hated the Rhythm and Movement idents (I personally thought they were quite good) and they still lasted 4 and a half years. Are we gonna have to suffer these for the same time period? Shocked


I certainly hope not! I quite liked these too, to be honest. Admittedly, the weren't quite up to the standard of the 'circles', but after seeing the latest idents, I've really started to appreciate 'Rhythm and Movement'.

A simple red background with just the BBC One logo in the middle would be an improvement on 'oneness', I reckon. Laughing
JB
JasonB
People hated the Rhythm and Movement idents (I personally thought they were quite good) and they still lasted 4 and a half years. Are we gonna have to suffer these for the same time period? Shocked


The hippos lasted 10 years!
DP
D.Page
People hated the Rhythm and Movement idents


How do you conclude that? I liked them, many liked them.

I bet some even like this new set. Wouldn't expect it to have reached double figures, though.
UBox, Steve Williams and Josh gave kudos
EL
elmarko
PC tosh

For the love of god, stop using this term in areas where it isn't relevant.

*ticks "PC" off his bingo card*

Edit: Sorry I see it was already mentioned.
Last edited by elmarko on 4 January 2017 1:15pm
Night Thoughts, Josh and Steve Williams gave kudos
CA
Caly123

The hippos lasted 10 years!

But did people like them though?
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Caly123

The hippos lasted 10 years!

But did people like them though?
PF
PFML84
People hated the Rhythm and Movement idents


How do you conclude that? I liked them, many liked them.

As did I, but going by other comments on here that said the same pretty much, either by posters on here or links to websites where people complained about them. Didn't POV have to field complaints about them too?

Clearly the BBC weren't keen on them considering they lasted so short a length of time compared to other ident sets.
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Caly123
Imagine if the Beeb liked the 'Rhythm and Movement idents and kept them. We wouldn't have the 'Circle' idents and they would've been on our screens for 14 years. I personally like the idents myself but I would of wanted a change of look.
WH
Whataday Founding member
I think it was a case of people hating losing the globe/balloons more than hating the Rhythm & Movement idents. As far as pres-fans were concerned they came during an era where "people idents" were en vogue. Pres-fans generally prefer a bit of CGI.
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elmarko
I think it was a case of people hating losing the globe/balloons more than hating the Rhythm & Movement idents. As far as pres-fans were concerned they came during an era where "people idents" were en vogue. Pres-fans generally prefer a bit of CGI.

Yeah, and I want to talk about this, because I genuinely believe that CGI/Symbol idents are dead in this day and age. Commentators including the sainted Applemask often pine for them to come back, and I believe it comes from the same piece of nostalgia in our brains that wants regional frontcaps back: it's not going to happen, shut up about it, let's move on.

However, I also think that real people crap like what we have been given are also rubbish. We've seen the reactions to them from various channels over the years and they don't seem to do well.

So... something in the middle... something that's real world but also with effects and a bit of CGI... perhaps those Channel 4 idents were actually good after all...
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
JoshX posted:
If I was one of those people asked to stand in the sea, stare gormlessly into infinity, and then turn around...waiting for a "it's in the can, it's a wrap!" - I would have said something along the lines of "Hey, what sort of idea is this for an ident???". Others would join....in an example of showing oneness!!

Maybe an idea for an ident is an ident being filmed, with everyone in the ident complaining how **** it is - followed by that 3 note sting you hear in comedies or films when something goes wrong, or you hit a nail into your finger.

It is something like C, B, B Flat. Play those notes on any keyboard or piano and you will know what I am referring to.

That would provide the jingle grabbing grabbing part of the ident!!

Very Happy

Is it meant to sound like a horror movie? Either that or I'm playing the wrong notes.


Play the notes again - and then make this sound effect with your voice as you play - "Mwah, mwah, mwwahhh!"

Then you'll know what I'm getting at!!
RW
Robert Williams Founding member
I think it was a case of people hating losing the globe/balloons more than hating the Rhythm & Movement idents. As far as pres-fans were concerned they came during an era where "people idents" were en vogue. Pres-fans generally prefer a bit of CGI.

This does indeed have a lot to do with it. The 'personality' 2s that were introduced a few months earlier had a similarly chilly response (and they were CGI!), and again that had a lot to do with people not wanting the old 2s to go, even though they had been around for over ten years.


I hated the rhythm and movement idents regardless, though some were less obnoxious than others, but didn't think they could ever be surpassed in awfulness...
Last edited by Robert Williams on 4 January 2017 1:38pm

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