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Hatton Cross3,441 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Work out a way to sync up the on screen clock to show the correct time via the four DTT, DSat, Dcable & IPlayer) different digital transmission systems, with all the digital encoding and decoding that takes, and I'm all for the return of the clock as we head into the six and ten.
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Technologist116 posts since 10 Oct 2018
London London
But the invision clock never showed the right time ......
It was always half a second fast so you saw it second hand vertical
just before you / the automation cut away At h0:00:00:00.

On the other end there is no specification for how long a decode takes
The Presentation Time Stamp just ensures all components are synchronised.
Josh1,262 posts since 21 Dec 2014
Work out a way to sync up the on screen clock to show the correct time via the four DTT, DSat, Dcable & IPlayer) different digital transmission systems, with all the digital encoding and decoding that takes, and I'm all for the return of the clock as we head into the six and ten.

It could possibly use the same system as BBC Scotland use with the Nine/Seven
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dosxuk4,472 posts since 22 Oct 2005
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Work out a way to sync up the on screen clock to show the correct time via the four DTT, DSat, Dcable & IPlayer) different digital transmission systems, with all the digital encoding and decoding that takes, and I'm all for the return of the clock as we head into the six and ten.

It could possibly use the same system as BBC Scotland use with the Nine/Seven


The "Don't give a fig" system?
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Steve in Pudsey10,697 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
There is an argument that if Radio 4 can broadcast the pips without anybody caring that they're a few seconds out on DAB, BBC One can use a clock.

And there is certainly an argument that a silent clock would be a much more dignified and authoritative way of getting into the news than some of the current batch of idents.
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Neil Jones6,192 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
People moan on Twitter that the clock is an hour out on GMB, so it's probably going to follow that they'll complain that the BBC clock going into the news is eight seconds out (or whatever). However I think IIRC the reason for getting rid of the clock in the first place was because of the delays in the encoding.

Anyway the target audience decides the level of complaint, nobody cares that the Radio 4 pips are behind, much like nobody cares that Channel 4's target audience don't need to have it rammed down their throat that they're watching +1 and they probably shouldn't phone that number... Yet on ITV and BBC One we have big disclaimers that basically say "For God's Sake, this is on demand, please don't be an idiot and phone the numbers anyway".
Robert Williams772 posts since 25 Jan 2003
London London
I've always felt that the excuse of the digital delay for dropping the clock is a red herring - as already mentioned, it hasn't stopped the broadcast of the Greenwich Time Signal on BBC Radio. I think the reason we no longer have a silently ticking clock is the same reason we no longer have a silently rotating globe, or static programme slides - it's viewed as an outdated presentation device. 'Authoritative and dignified' is not what they're after when it comes to modern television presentation.

Not that the current Oneness idents are any more appropriate for introducing the news, but then the only place they're appropriate for is the bin...
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Technologist116 posts since 10 Oct 2018
London London
But radio is also emitted in analogue form ....... so no cider there.
It gets to the transmitters over NiCAM.. near instantaneous.....
all be it now E1 over IP which does add say 100 ms delay ..

But I do tend to agree that clocks are not modern presentation “friendliness “
Spencer (previously Spencer For Hire) 6,112 posts since 13 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Sure, a slient clock with a static background might not look very modern these days, but I'm sure with a bit of creativity, someone could come up with something that doesn't look outdated.

Nobody seems to think the BBC News Channel countdowns are outdated, and that's essentially a clock of sorts. Channel 4 also has abstract clock idents into the news which look pretty good to me.
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Asa3,670 posts since 22 Mar 2001 Administrator
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When we’ve got a bunch of boxers introducing Breakfast, as was the case this morning, there’s absolutely no hope of returning to something as dignified and appropriate as a clock.

Digital delay is a rubbish excuse - BBC Scotland, any news channel with a clock, Big Ben striking midnight at New Year... there’s enough examples where it just isn’t an issue.
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