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"Watch this space" as BBC Creative respond to ident change request (December 2016)

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Blake Connolly Founding member
Thing is, they don't necessarily need the same kind of glossy post-production sheen as ITV's idents, when done well this kind of approach of documentary realism with natural sound could work really well too. For example maybe a few interesting close-up shots with louder sound effects before the final wide shot. There's so many directions this concept could've been taken with better results.
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gottago
Around 4 years ago whilst on holiday, I though of an idea that BBC 1 could follow for a new symbol which was inspired by the Swiss tv idents focusing on the numeral which was shot in various locations in the confederation. Maybe the BBC should go Swiss and take something similar on.
The red fits in well with BBC one as well, with it being the primary colour of the channel for just about 20 years now.


Their sea swimmers ident is certainly more impressive... SRF have to be the polar opposite of BBC for consistency. Their original idents were created by Dunning Penny/Elley Jones. No reason BBC couldn't have done the same. They actually added to their collection of idents, always following the same theme for the many years the package aired. The ident below is from their new look, again it still follows a similar theme and doesn't feel the need to have any silly tagline or marketing babble, its just a good ident. No channels in the UK seem to be able to add to their idents and if they do they are sub par and don't match the originals. They could have retained the circles and combine it with oneness (swimming in a circle, dancing in a circle etc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmnxxGWEreI

I mean, that is exactly what the BBC One swimmer ident should be. Well made, built to last, within brand, not embarrassing in any way, no cellulite etc.

I'm still absolutely floored by what we've got here. Truly awful. I cannot comprehend how anyone would watch these and approve them for broadcast.
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TODAY
Around 4 years ago whilst on holiday, I though of an idea that BBC 1 could follow for a new symbol which was inspired by the Swiss tv idents focusing on the numeral which was shot in various locations in the confederation. Maybe the BBC should go Swiss and take something similar on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXXtnqi4en8

The red fits in well with BBC one as well, with it being the primary colour of the channel for just about 20 years now.


These really remind me of the current Channel 4 idents, with the obvious exception of it culminating into the fully built logo.
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A former member
Kind of reminds me of the Circles Surfer long ident before it was chopped.

It wasn't. The only change made to Surfer was the placing of the swirls and logo earlier.

2006 - http://tig.gy/?MCY41
2012 - http://tig.gy/?UHEA1
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Kunst
I would just call them "clips", idents is not really an appropriate term for such a job

BBC One is now touching a new low, becoming a bit like Italian TV channel Italia 1 (with common people shouting "Italia 1" before the promos; and this for a LONG time now): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_U-A-4xVn8
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Rex
Around 4 years ago whilst on holiday, I though of an idea that BBC 1 could follow for a new symbol which was inspired by the Swiss tv idents focusing on the numeral which was shot in various locations in the confederation. Maybe the BBC should go Swiss and take something similar on.
The red fits in well with BBC one as well, with it being the primary colour of the channel for just about 20 years now.


Their sea swimmers ident is certainly more impressive... SRF have to be the polar opposite of BBC for consistency. Their original idents were created by Dunning Penny/Elley Jones. No reason BBC couldn't have done the same. They actually added to their collection of idents, always following the same theme for the many years the package aired. The ident below is from their new look, again it still follows a similar theme and doesn't feel the need to have any silly tagline or marketing babble, its just a good ident. No channels in the UK seem to be able to add to their idents and if they do they are sub par and don't match the originals. They could have retained the circles and combine it with oneness (swimming in a circle, dancing in a circle etc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmnxxGWEreI

I mean, that is exactly what the BBC One swimmer ident should be. Well made, built to last, within brand, not embarrassing in any way, no cellulite etc.

I'm still absolutely floored by what we've got here. Truly awful. I cannot comprehend how anyone would watch these and approve them for broadcast.

Looked at that ident - looks much more impressive and displays a recognisable symbol to represent the channel.

I really doubt that the BBC have any quality control on their pres. What we have for our flagship channel is disgraceful. Just a bloody disgrace.
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Gluben
How about these as alternative BBC One idents? New globe concept but it's formed by different objects coming together.



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tmorgan96
Here's a post I made about BBC One on MediaSpy, I've pasted it here:

There's an idea there, but it hasn't been executed well.

What BBC One has tried to do with this refresh is try to convey their 'oneness' with the community and place emphasis on their public service commitments as well. The only problem with the execution is it's lazy. A few people exercising and swimming does not effectively communicate the core meaning behind the rebrand. They needed to do something more profound or eyecatching. It doesn't help that almost everything about those two idents is dreary as. A grey beach and a bland room with unflattering depictions of people, and then you see the BBC One logo. What does that tell you about your brand? What appreciation does that give me of the BBC in general?

Compare this effort to one of the ABC's idents of a dingo singing the ABC notes in a country landscape.



You have the outback (a quintessentially Australian backdrop), you have the ABC worm front and centre, and you have the iconic ABC notes. It's a really effective piece of branding, because you've just pelted the viewer with every important aspect of the ABC's branding in a short 10 second window. The ABC notes are there, as they have been for decades; Here's a playlist of ABC idents from the 1990s with the same iconic notes:



There are so many layers of branding in the dingo ident which call back to fond memories and make the viewer appreciate the history and importance of the broadcaster: its role in Australian culture, its reflection of our society, its own history.

I'm saddened that BBC One never developed a brand along the same lines, but regardless, they still could've rebranded the channel along familiar lines by continuing with the same musical notes they had during the 2006 circles era with new idents focusing on another aspect with some landscape shots of London or something.
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orange
TODAY posted:
Around 4 years ago whilst on holiday, I though of an idea that BBC 1 could follow for a new symbol which was inspired by the Swiss tv idents focusing on the numeral which was shot in various locations in the confederation. Maybe the BBC should go Swiss and take something similar on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXXtnqi4en8

The red fits in well with BBC one as well, with it being the primary colour of the channel for just about 20 years now.


These really remind me of the current Channel 4 idents, with the obvious exception of it culminating into the fully built logo.

That's what I was thinking, it's very channel 4 crossed over with the Sky 1 branding in 2008.
:-(
A former member
Will these idents even cover places outside England? What about Wales or NI? how does these cover its public service commitments?
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Maarten1
Around 4 years ago whilst on holiday, I though of an idea that BBC 1 could follow for a new symbol which was inspired by the Swiss tv idents focusing on the numeral which was shot in various locations in the confederation. Maybe the BBC should go Swiss and take something similar on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXXtnqi4en8

The red fits in well with BBC one as well, with it being the primary colour of the channel for just about 20 years now.


Totally off topic, but it reminds me of this one, from 2007:
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edmund
Will these idents even cover places outside England? What about Wales or NI? how does these cover its public service commitments?

That would be far too long a commute for Martin Parr!
denton and Larry the Loafer gave kudos

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