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Inspector Sands13,691 posts since 25 Aug 2004

If VM wanted to it shouldn't be too difficult for them to provide a circuit from BBC Salford to the local head end and have it fed with the output of the local opt switch? (Technically rather than BBC politically, anyway)

I can see several issues with that. Firstly do VM have local head ends?

Secondly every BBC service goes through a central location before being handed over or sent out for distribution. They can switch between paths if there's an issue or substitute another region if one is out of action. Bypassing that removes that resiliance and control - they could end up with Virgin carrying something that other platforms aren't.
Markymark6,882 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today

If VM wanted to it shouldn't be too difficult for them to provide a circuit from BBC Salford to the local head end and have it fed with the output of the local opt switch? (Technically rather than BBC politically, anyway)

I can see several issues with that. Firstly do VM have local head ends?

Secondly every BBC service goes through a central location before being handed over or sent out for distribution. They can switch between paths if there's an issue or substitute another region if one is out of action. Bypassing that removes that resiliance and control - they could end up with Virgin carrying something that other platforms aren't.


Plus, what feed would BBC NW opt out of ?

If they use the BBC 1HD England feed, (assuming it was made available), that has the red screen of death during opts, no good for fallback. Also their output would need to be down converted to feed the SD platforms, not part of BBC ER architecture.

There seems to be rather a lot of wishful thinking going on, when my suspicion is it'll be nothing more than BBC NW SD in an MPEG4 HD 'wrapper'
Asa3,530 posts since 22 Mar 2001 Administrator
Meridian (South East) South East Today
Interesting switcharoo last night where Dean announcing on BBC Two moved over to BBC One for the post midnight junctions while Jenny, announcing all evening on One, introduced the final programme on Two (albeit with a very generic warning announcement).

I’m sure it’s happened many a time, just the first I’ve noticed.
VMPhil9,714 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

There seems to be rather a lot of wishful thinking going on, when my suspicion is it'll be nothing more than BBC NW SD in an MPEG4 HD 'wrapper'

Confused I was just reporting what was being discussed on another forum, and backed up with data from the DigitalBitrate website. Can you blame people for wishful thinking though, it’s been nine years since BBC One HD launched and still no regional news.
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Markymark6,882 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today

There seems to be rather a lot of wishful thinking going on, when my suspicion is it'll be nothing more than BBC NW SD in an MPEG4 HD 'wrapper'

Confused I was just reporting what was being discussed on another forum, and backed up with data from the DigitalBitrate website. Can you blame people for wishful thinking though, it’s been nine years since BBC One HD launched and still no regional news.


Oh, no criticism implied, sorry if it came over that way, I do agree BBC HD regions are woefully overdue, but I don't think the Virgin observations are a sign of that changing
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Lou Scannon1,134 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
I despise the Red Screen of Death "solution", with a passion.

Bring back UK Today!

Or... have editions of Sportsday that are structured to start/end as per the regional news bulletins, so they can be simulcast on BBC One HD.

Or... Simulcast whatever the NC is showing (Sportsday or otherwise), but make the effort to have a clean outro - e.g. "now we say goodbye to viewers on BBC One" - for where the in-lieu-of-regional-news slot ends.
I'm still a European.
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Markymark6,882 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
I despise the Red Screen of Death "solution", with a passion.

Bring back UK Today!

Or... have editions of Sportsday that are structured to start/end as per the regional news bulletins, so they can be simulcast on BBC One HD.

Or... Simulcast whatever the NC is showing (Sportsday or otherwise), but make the effort to have a clean outro - e.g. "now we say goodbye to viewers on BBC One" - for where the in-lieu-of-regional-news slot ends.


As the London region represents about 25% of England's population, they could just carry BBC London News on BBC 1 HD, and at a stroke 1 in 4 viewers would at least get their local news in HD.
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Josh933 posts since 21 Dec 2014
Just before the Six today there was a promo for MoTD with a new style promo endboard. Is this a one off or could we be seeing a new style endboard rolled out across all of BBC One?
My tweet was read out on BBC Four's Eurovision coverage and Rylan Clark-Neal replied to it. That's all.