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bilky asko
Do they not teach BBC ONE continuity announcers correct pronunciation these days? Both network and Scotland mispronounced 'grande dame'.


Mmmm...could be a lot worse.

Tonight's lottery numbers are: free, firteen, twenty-free, firty, firty-free and forty-free. The bonus ball is: fifty-free. There were free winners of tonight's draw - each receiving free-hundred-and-firty-free fousand pounds.


Yes. How dare a regional accent make it to the BBC.
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MMcG198
Do they not teach BBC ONE continuity announcers correct pronunciation these days? Both network and Scotland mispronounced 'grande dame'.


Mmmm...could be a lot worse.

Tonight's lottery numbers are: free, firteen, twenty-free, firty, firty-free and forty-free. The bonus ball is: fifty-free. There were free winners of tonight's draw - each receiving free-hundred-and-firty-free fousand pounds.


Yes. How dare a regional accent make it to the BBC.


I'm not having that discussion again. The pronunciation of those words/numbers is wrong. Not debatable.
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A former member
I still LOVE this clip

https://youtu.be/mFu22UTOYT8?t=68


BBC ONE continuity reminded me more of this...

https://youtu.be/mO3xMvLoQzs?t=1m30s
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A former member
Nice to see the drummers get peak time airing, but Glasgow put the volume right down so you can hear it. To give the CA his dues, he run late into the one show titles Very Happy
Last edited by A former member on 15 August 2018 7:59pm
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bilky asko

Mmmm...could be a lot worse.

Tonight's lottery numbers are: free, firteen, twenty-free, firty, firty-free and forty-free. The bonus ball is: fifty-free. There were free winners of tonight's draw - each receiving free-hundred-and-firty-free fousand pounds.


Yes. How dare a regional accent make it to the BBC.


I'm not having that discussion again. The pronunciation of those words/numbers is wrong. Not debatable.


Th-fronting is a part of many regional accents. It isn't, therefore, "wrong". You just happen to dislike it.
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MMcG198

Yes. How dare a regional accent make it to the BBC.


I'm not having that discussion again. The pronunciation of those words/numbers is wrong. Not debatable.


Th-fronting is a part of many regional accents. It isn't, therefore, "wrong". You just happen to dislike it.


Just because the use of th-fronting is becoming more common does not make it right. There is a widely recognised, longstanding correct pronunciation of these words. I have absolutely no objection to the use of regional accents - in fact, I welcome it. However, when an accent stretches things to a point where there's a significant deviation from the standard pronunciation of words, that's where I believe we have a problem. And 'th' becoming 'f' is one such example. I am aware of many accents which have many such deviations - and I can assure you, we'll never hear one of those accents announcing programmes on BBC One because the majority of the population would not understand half of what's being said.

There's a significant role for schools in all of this. I have read many reports of teachers being criticised for their regional accents. I am all for celebrating the rich diversity of accents. However, there are certain fundamental elements of pronunciation that need to be protected and standardised in our English lessons.
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fanoftv
Didn't the BBC used to have a pronunciation department? I'm sure I have memories of them discussing it on the Radio 1 Chris Moyles Show.
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Brekkie

I'm not having that discussion again. The pronunciation of those words/numbers is wrong. Not debatable.


Th-fronting is a part of many regional accents. It isn't, therefore, "wrong". You just happen to dislike it.


Just because the use of th-fronting is becoming more common does not make it right. There is a widely recognised, longstanding correct pronunciation of these words. I have absolutely no objection to the use of regional accents - in fact, I welcome it. However, when an accent stretches things to a point where there's a significant deviation from the standard pronunciation of words, that's where I believe we have a problem. And 'th' becoming 'f' is one such example. I am aware of many accents which have many such deviations - and I can assure you, we'll never hear one of those accents announcing programmes on BBC One because the majority of the population would not understand half of what's being said.

There's a significant role for schools in all of this. I have read many reports of teachers being criticised for their regional accents. I am all for celebrating the rich diversity of accents. However, there are certain fundamental elements of pronunciation that need to be protected and standardised in our English lessons.

It is attitudes like that which lead to one of my biggest pet hates in TV - people speaking in English being subtitled due to their accent. Thankfully it happens less here than in the States but at best it is insulting and ignorant, at worst it is outright racism.
davidhorman, orange and Warbler gave kudos
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davidhorman
There is a widely recognised, longstanding correct pronunciation of these words.


In which tome is it so written?
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A former member
There is a widely recognised, longstanding correct pronunciation of these words.


In which tome is it so written?

Dictionaries? Books that give meaning and pronunciation guides to words.
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davidhorman
English dictionaries are descriptive, not proscriptive. "Most common" - or "closest to the home counties" - doesn't make any pronunciation right . I presume it doesn't annoy you when Kirsty Wark presents Newsnight, even though her pronunication should be, by those standards, atrocious.
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Square Eyes Founding member
I notice BBC One appear to be randomly burning off an episode of 'Wedding Day Winners' at 17:15. I take it it didn't finish its run earlier in the year after tanking in the ratings?

Have all of the Partners in Rhyme episodes now aired?

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