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Steve in Pudsey
In view of how the cable installer who set my late grandad's box up couldn't manage not to set the RF output such that it didn't obliterate analogue BBC2, I'm not holding out much hope for such advanced skills as getting the aspect ratio right.
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TIGHazard
Steve in Pudsey posted:
In view of how the cable installer who set my late grandad's box up couldn't manage not to set the RF output such that it didn't obliterate analogue BBC2, I'm not holding out much hope for such advanced skills as getting the aspect ratio right.


When I originally got Tivo installed the VM tech somehow managed to get it so that whenever it went into record mode (which happens a lot in the first few weeks when it learns your suggestions), the internet would go off for 10 minutes. Needless to say, another visit was required a week or so later.
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Inspector Sands
james-2001 posted:

Yay for all the people who have the 4:3 cut-out stretched across a 16:9 screen. I'm sure the majority of people with widescreen sets were watching like that at one time, it was rare for a LONG time for me to see a 16:9 TV set up otherwise!

Friends of mine in the early days of digital had their cable box like that. They were amazed when I changed it and they could see so much more football pitch

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It wasn't that long ago where I was in a Travelodge where the channels were sent through an anlogue RF setup that way.

The TV's in most Travelodge's are odd, how they do what they do to their channels I gave no idea. stayed at a few post-switchover that provided a 14:9 version of BBC1 on their widescreen sets. How on earth?
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JamesLaverty1925
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The TV's in most Travelodge's are odd, how they do what they do to their channels I gave no idea. stayed at a few post-switchover that provided a 14:9 version of BBC1 on their widescreen sets. How on earth?


Think they've changed now, I stayed at one a few weeks ago and it was the normal set-up, no more limited channel options and stuff like BBC News being on #8 etc
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james-2001
Inspector Sands posted:

The TV's in most Travelodge's are odd, how they do what they do to their channels I gave no idea. stayed at a few post-switchover that provided a 14:9 version of BBC1 on their widescreen sets. How on earth?

Some digital set top boxes have a 14:9 option, presumably they were using a box set up that way.
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noggin Founding member
james-2001 posted:
Inspector Sands posted:

The TV's in most Travelodge's are odd, how they do what they do to their channels I gave no idea. stayed at a few post-switchover that provided a 14:9 version of BBC1 on their widescreen sets. How on earth?

Some digital set top boxes have a 14:9 option, presumably they were using a box set up that way.


I think relatively recent STBs properly followed AFDs which would trigger a 14:9 letterbox for a 4:3 display when it received content AFD flagged as 14:9 safe. This effectively fully simulated what the ARCs feeding the 4:3 PAL analogue network did.
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Robert Williams Founding member
noggin posted:
james-2001 posted:
Inspector Sands posted:

The TV's in most Travelodge's are odd, how they do what they do to their channels I gave no idea. stayed at a few post-switchover that provided a 14:9 version of BBC1 on their widescreen sets. How on earth?

Some digital set top boxes have a 14:9 option, presumably they were using a box set up that way.


I think relatively recent STBs properly followed AFDs which would trigger a 14:9 letterbox for a 4:3 display when it received content AFD flagged as 14:9 safe. This effectively fully simulated what the ARCs feeding the 4:3 PAL analogue network did.

Yes, I see the BBC News channel in 14:9 when letterbox mode is selected. The other BBC and ITV channels also used to zoom to 14:9 before they changed to forced 16:9 letterbox.
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noggin Founding member
Robert Williams posted:
noggin posted:
james-2001 posted:
Some digital set top boxes have a 14:9 option, presumably they were using a box set up that way.


I think relatively recent STBs properly followed AFDs which would trigger a 14:9 letterbox for a 4:3 display when it received content AFD flagged as 14:9 safe. This effectively fully simulated what the ARCs feeding the 4:3 PAL analogue network did.

Yes, I see the BBC News channel in 14:9 when letterbox mode is selected. The other BBC and ITV channels also used to zoom to 14:9 before they changed to forced 16:9 letterbox.


Yes - suspect most channels are now AFDing 16:9 safe, and News Channel still AFDs as 14:9?
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Inspector Sands
JamesLaverty1925 posted:

Think they've changed now, I stayed at one a few weeks ago and it was the normal set-up, no more limited channel options and stuff like BBC News being on #8 etc

Yes the last couple I've been in have been just full Freeview.

It was odd though that you could stay in the cheapest B&B in the middle of nowhere and have 60 channels I perfect quality from a bog standard telly.... and in a big chain like Travelodge you got about 10 channels each in a different aspect ratio
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james-2001
Not to mention sent through an analogue PAL RF feed with mono audio!

14 days later

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Rory
BBC One is showing Dara O Briain Meets Stephen Hawking tonight: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05zm4tz
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Brekkie
Extra time in the FA Cup, then penalties if required followed by the draw, so that's the schedule screwed tonight. Obvious thing to do is just pull Hold the Sunset at 8pm and run to time as much as possible without that.

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