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"Watch this space" as BBC Creative respond to ident change request (December 2016)

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SP
Spencer
I was just watching the original 2006 versions of the idents, and it reminded me how superior those original soundtracks were to what came after 2009. I think those new soundtracks and the bad edits are what made me less of a fan of that set.

I’ve been giving this some further thought.

When the circles launched they had beautiful cinematography and soundtracks, but long form-ups that the continuity announcers tended to talk over before the logo even appeared.

Then in 2009 the idents were cut to bits so the logo could appear right at the start but ruining the execution of the circle animation appearing over an actual circle, introducing naff replacement soundtracks and generally looking a bit poor in comparison.

So, considering that the originals were beautiful but too long, and the edits were shorter but ruined the story or cinematography, I wonder: were they fit for purpose as idents in the first place? Maybe they were just too far from the traditional idea of an ident to work day in day out before each programme. Less of an ident and more of a short film (certainly in the case of Mission Control and Helicopter, the former particularly ruined by the re-editing)


Ideally they could have done with the short form-up versions in the launch package with short edits of the original music.

I don't know why they didn't edit the original music, rather than going to the trouble of getting new themes recorded by a different composer. Without wanting to sound too cocky, I'm fairly certain I could do a decent job in Adobe Audition without too much trouble.

I still think though that there's a place for the long versions to create more of a dramatic build-up, especially when going into big, flagship programmes and films, etc..
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CA
Cavan
Ideally they could have done with the short form-up versions in the launch package with short edits of the original music.

They did, IIRC.
SP
Spencer
Cavan posted:
Ideally they could have done with the short form-up versions in the launch package with short edits of the original music.

They did, IIRC.


My memory's possibly getting a bit hazy. I remember them having some shorter versions, but still with a considerably longer sequence before the logo appears than the later edits if I remember rightly.
WL
W1LL
Probably not the right thread, but Pointless has a new set by the looks of it. Not really sure what to make of it, its hard to judge by the picture.


AG
AxG
Think as Richard said, best wait till they put some money in the meter for the lights.
VM
VMPhil
It's a bit pointless sharing a photo with all the lights off, since that's nothing like how it will look on screen.
BR
Brekkie
Doesn't look like it'll be hugely different. Will make repeats slightly easier to spot though.
RD
RDJ
'20 Years of Power with Huw Edwards' was introduced as 'Now on BBC Tw... One' on Network.

We then got to see a BBC1 Wales smokey globe ident introduce the programme.
JU
Justin
Cavan posted:
Ideally they could have done with the short form-up versions in the launch package with short edits of the original music.

They did, IIRC.

BBC America got versions of the circles in 2006 with shorter form-ups but with re-edits of the original music rather than the 2009 versions. They were on TV-ark if memory serves right
DP
D.Page
Last night's programme Twenty Years of Power with Huw Edwards began with a showing of Virtual Globe (ver.2), with 888 indication:

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LL
Larry the Loafer
It's a bit pointless sharing a photo with all the lights off, since that's nothing like how it will look on screen.


I still find it fascinating how different studios and sets look with house lights on.
DB
dbl
It makes you realise how important lighting and depth are to a set.

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