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HC
Hatton Cross
Interestingly, BBC Breakfast 'fell' off the air for about 10 seconds yesterday morning at around 6.08am mid package report.
The breakdown caption was faded up - but no annoucement.
An appology was given for 'the brief loss of pictures on BBC One' - which is curious as that seems to indicate that the loss didn't happen on the News Channel.

Loosing the feed briefly twice in the same day? Minor gremlin in the chain, somewhere perhaps?
WO
Worzel
Here it is:



Similar to what happened here a few years ago:

DP
D.Page
I know this is totally off topic, but the image of Louise Lear has reminded me of this clip:



I wonder what gave her the giggles, she's normally so well composed.
MM
MMcG198
That wasn't a 'programme holding slide' (even though I'm sure we established a while ago that they were never called that) it's the slide they have ready for the weather bulletins in case the announcer has to read it


Firstly, I don't read every page of this forum, so I'm afraid I missed the debate re the title of these captions. What I can tell you is that the term "Programme Holding Slide/Graphic/Caption" is one I came up with to identify these captions on The TV Room, across all channels. For many, many years, the BBC referred to these...

http://thetvroom.com/bbc-uk/bbc-1-1985-02-misc-010.html

...simply as "slides". That term was a bit non-specific for The TV Room - as there were different "types" of slide - so I opted for the above, to better classify these items. And the term "slides" survived the switch from 35mm slides to the electronic variety, introduced in the late-1980s. I've no idea how the BBC/Ericsson refers to such graphics these days but I'd be interested to know. The graphic that interrupted the weather would've been referred to as a "slide" back in the day. I realise that the BBC/Ericsson probably only create such graphics for a very small number of programmes these days, as it's no longer fashionable to promote a programme over a still graphic (though BBC NI still does this occasionally for the likes of the 'Spotlight' programme); and of course we have that breakdown graphic which pops up now in the event of a breakdown rather than a dedicated programme-specific graphic.

And whilst verifying the use of the term "slides" with an ex-BBC Pres chap a little earlier, he shared with me an interesting little factoid (for those of you who are interested in such things). Many years earlier, in studio E at Lime Grove, there was a machine called a Telejector, which originated monochrome 35mm slides. They were called "TJ Slides" or "TJs" and were used on current affairs programmes like '24 Hours'.

Just watched it back and although she was doing OK, she did say she might not be able to continue and wasn't sure if she was on air so in that context it's not that bizarre a decision.


The on-air result looked bizarre. She was coping admirably and we still had a useful verbal summary - only for her to be cut off. As I said, there may have been something else going on that we weren't aware of that caused the abrupt departure but I stand by my statement that it looked messy.
Markymark and VMPhil gave kudos
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I wonder if the director intended to cut to the slide to replace the frozen image but keep Louise's audio, but that didn't go according to plan, so Delroy had to fill?
Rory and Inspector Sands gave kudos
MY
MY83
I did like Peter Gibbs' brief diversion from his polished TV accent to the more natural London/Essex/Generic SouthEastern accent when interjecting "computers, eh?"
WO
Worzel
MY83 posted:
I did like Peter Gibbs' brief diversion from his polished TV accent to the more natural London/Essex/Generic SouthEastern accent when interjecting "computers, eh?"


I suppose that's what happens when you spend a spell of your early career at BBC Look East. Laughing
BA
bilky asko
I wonder if the director intended to cut to the slide to replace the frozen image but keep Louise's audio, but that didn't go according to plan, so Delroy had to fill?


To me it looked as if it wasn't noticed that there was a problem, so she was cut off when she must have been close to wrapping up. Maybe I'm just a pessimist.
IS
Inspector Sands
That wasn't a 'programme holding slide' (even though I'm sure we established a while ago that they were never called that) it's the slide they have ready for the weather bulletins in case the announcer has to read it


Firstly, I don't read every page of this forum, so I'm afraid I missed the debate re the title of these captions. What I can tell you is that the term "Programme Holding Slide/Graphic/Caption" is one I came up with to identify these captions on The TV Room, across all channels. For many, many years, the BBC referred to these...
http://thetvroom.com/bbc-uk/bbc-1-1985-02-misc-010.html
...simply as "slides".

Thus confirming the outcome of the discussion.... which was a few years ago.

Quote:
I realise that the BBC/Ericsson probably only create such graphics for a very small number of programmes these days, as it's no longer fashionable to promote a programme over a still graphic (though BBC NI still does this occasionally for the likes of the 'Spotlight' programme); and of course we have that breakdown graphic which pops up now in the event of a breakdown rather than a dedicated programme-specific graphic.


Yep as I say the weather slide is really there because it's intended to be used when the weather forecast isn't available and is read by the announcer instead. The weather centre send over a script for this reason
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The discussion was some time ago but I'm sure that a routine sheet or similar from one of the ITV companies turned up which referred to "holding slides".
IS
Inspector Sands
I wonder if the director intended to cut to the slide to replace the frozen image but keep Louise's audio, but that didn't go according to plan, so Delroy had to fill?

That sounds quite likely
JL
JamesLaverty1925
Wicko posted:
Is Northern Ireland now over represented with the Oneness look?


I'd been thinking this as well, but at the same time, BBC NI always make a full effort with presentation so maybe they deserve a bigger representation

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