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Si-Co

BBC NI didn't have a slide scanner until c. the latter stages of 1985/early 1986


I realise this conversation is about putting the testcard to air, so I may be misunderstanding you, but... no slide scanner at all? How did NI handle junctions between programmes that normally relied heavily on the use of slides? Or crash captions? Did they take the network feed (in vision only) or what?
JA
james-2001
Maybe they still had a caption stand?
WI
Wicko
Are we still expecting a "Tennis" ident to launch today? And is Duncan still a cyberman?
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A former member
Here it comes what was used at the 13.45 junction?
DP
D.Page
Digbeth Boxers (except for NI, who showed Birdwatchers ver.2) .....zzzzzzzzz
Last edited by D.Page on 3 July 2017 1:52pm
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A former member
So there changed their minds.... From page 2 of this thread from the times..

Quote:
Others still to be shot include people on an allotment, a dancing class and possibly a tennis club to coincide with the Wimbledon championships .
TE
tesandco Founding member
Regular boxers, and surprisingly not even a reuse of the sting already posted by Darren last night in the junction. That certainly wasn't worth remote connecting into my machine for.

Back to work it is then! Razz
Last edited by tesandco on 3 July 2017 2:09pm
DP
D.Page
So there changed their minds.... From page 2 of this thread from the times..

Quote:
Others still to be shot include people on an allotment, a dancing class and possibly a tennis club to coincide with the Wimbledon championships .


It could still happen, e.g. if they are a touch late in filming/preparing it for TX. Doubtful, though.
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A former member
I dread to think what the bbc will give us now for July.. Maybe something for the school holidays? I wonder what we'll get in august, people looking at us then resum sitting at the beach?
DP
D.Page
... and surprisingly not even a reuse of the sting already posted by Darren last night in the junction...


I did see it being used immediately after Breakfast, at around 9.15am this morning.
MM
MMcG198
Si-Co posted:

BBC NI didn't have a slide scanner until c. the latter stages of 1985/early 1986


I realise this conversation is about putting the testcard to air, so I may be misunderstanding you, but... no slide scanner at all? How did NI handle junctions between programmes that normally relied heavily on the use of slides? Or crash captions? Did they take the network feed (in vision only) or what?


BBC NI relied on Network for programme slides (for networked programmes). Until the late-1980s, we had network continuity during daytime hours anyway (with the exception of opts for regional news). Local continuity didn't begin until after children's programmes (weekdays) at 5.40pm and somewhere between 5pm and 6pm at weekends. Up until the late 1980s, it was pretty common for the local announcer to let the network announcer voice programme holding slides too. But, fading down network audio and voicing the trail locally was common as well.

Holding captions for local programmes were produced using printed card captions, as far as I'm aware. These were then passed through a colour synthesizer (similar practice for the globe symbol and clock). Some examples:

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-001.png

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-005.png

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-004.png

...and when the mechanical globe broke down, we got this:

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-003.png

This static symbol was also used in the days running up to the launch of the COW symbol in 1985, if memory serves me right.

In autumn 1984, at the time of BBC Northern Ireland's 60th birthday celebrations, they invested in new equipment which enabled electronically-generated captions:

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-002.png

...and although we were still stuck with the mechanical globe...

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-006.png

...we did get the clock hardware that enabled this particular pres device to be generated electronically...

http://thetvroom.com/tvf/bbc1-ni-007.png

I have no idea how the positioning of the 'BBC1 Northern Ireland' logo was ever deemed acceptable.
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A former member
When did BBC Ni start going weekend ca during the 90s? Did their wait until the late 90s?

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