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"Watch this space" as BBC Creative respond to ident change request (December 2016)

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Wicko
Excellent Brekkie! Sharp witted as usual. But no, will be back next week!
RE
Rex
Wicko posted:
As Im in Malta, I havent seen any UK TV for three days. So, can I assume that the circles didnt make a return as I predicted and that Oneness is still alive and kicking?

Yes it is still - they are the de facto replacement for the circles, no wonder why they made such a fuss about it in the press.

But as it stands, I can't see it lasting more than a year - judging from what the BBC has said, the Oneness campaign is only for a year - which is the aim of these idents - keeping them beyond that period of time just isn't practical without keeping the concept. You've also got to consider the critical general consensus on the current set - that could change as not all have been filmed.
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Rofters
Wicko posted:
As Im in Malta, I havent seen any UK TV for three days. So, can I assume that the circles didnt make a return as I predicted and that Oneness is still alive and kicking?

Unfortunately yes.
CR
Critique
First use of a slide I've seen since the rebrand here...

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Slightly surprised that someone thought to update the template considering what a bodge the rebrand is! Then again, the transition from the red background to the image from the Inside Out titles is in the style of the swirl transition...
JO
Jonny
Look North NE&C still use their seemingly interminably botched 2006 template, where the BBC One logo isn't centred as it should be, but instead shoved over to the right of the screen within the red section.

Doubt it will ever be fixed.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
For Sunday Politics in the Look East region there was a strange ident mix up whereby the new Mountain Rescue ident was played, however the old Capes ident music was also played.
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Wicko
For Sunday Politics in the Look East region there was a strange ident mix up whereby the new Mountain Rescue ident was played, however the old Capes ident music was also played.


Consistency is still not a priority then!
TO
tomo359
For Sunday Politics in the Look East region there was a strange ident mix up whereby the new Mountain Rescue ident was played, however the old Capes ident music was also played.


How does something like that even happen?? Are the video and sound files played separately and someone selected the wrong file? I'd have thought it would just have been a video and sound file combined.
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Asa Admin
But I guess you'd then you'd have lots of video files for every variation of presenter? Possibly easier to have a couple of idents and then many sound clips. Think this was how it was done in the old clock days.

Was it a rare presenter on Look East that day, maybe they hadn't recorded a newer version?

That reminds me, South East need to fix theirs - the announcement with Ellie Crisell is the worst cut-and-shut version going.
IS
Inspector Sands

How does something like that even happen?? Are the video and sound files played separately and someone selected the wrong file? I'd have thought it would just have been a video and sound file combined.


In the regions they're often pre built idents. When there's minimal staffing in the gallery you don't want to be running seperate annos on top of idents. The ones before Inside Out are built onto the programme itself

I suspect someone went to re-edit the ident then realised that they didn't have the original voice over to hand so just replaced the video. It's not ideal, but it does the job.
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 7 February 2017 1:53pm
JA
JAS84
Asa posted:
That reminds me, South East need to fix theirs - the announcement with Ellie Crisell is the worst cut-and-shut version going.
Ellie's a CA now? Last I knew, she was a newsreader (she used to do the 8pm headlines).
IS
Inspector Sands
JAS84 posted:
Ellie's a CA now? Last I knew, she was a newsreader (she used to do the 8pm headlines).

In the regions the continuity announcers are usually just the nearest person with a half decent voice, normally a reporter or presenter

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