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But what is North? Manchester or Hull, Newcastle or Cumbria?

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MA
Meridian AM
Jon posted:

Looks like its been deleted.


I was surprised they tweeted that particular clip, as these days a handful of people would no doubt find it offensive to the northerners.

The joke is obviously about how southerners view northerners, and not that that the North is an actually an awful place. So anyone with half a brain cell shouldn’t find it offensive.

Of course the small percentage of people who don’t understand the joke are always going to be the most vocal.


Correct. That small percentage is probably the reason they deleted it.
I'm not a northerner and I think it's funny. (I'm a Midlander living in Southampton.)
JO
Jon
Of course many people would say those South of London would view you as a northerner and indeed you are to them.
SP
Spencer
Well, it was written by Victoria Wood, who was a northerner, so it’s hardly an attack on the north. It’s quite a well-known sketch too.
JC
JCB
Yes, there can't possibly be any other reason a tweet was deleted.

People love to get offended over people getting offended. Even if they don't know anyone was actually offended in the first place. Rolling Eyes
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JO
Jon
JCB posted:
Yes, there can't possibly be any other reason a tweet was deleted.

People love to get offended over people getting offended. Even if they don't know anyone was actually offended in the first place. Rolling Eyes

Well people obviously were or there was a fear they might be. Either way it appears that somebody didn’t like that Tweet.

There is very little satire that won’t offend at least someone out of semi-random pool of thousands.

Of course there may be other reasons, but I don’t think it’s unlikely that’s the reason it was removed.
Last edited by Jon on 19 March 2021 6:37pm - 3 times in total
JO
Joe
It’s probably nothing more than it not being the most professional-looking of tweets from a corporate account.
MK
Mr Kite
Joking about pretty much anything is a minefield, these days.
MA
Markymark

BBC North as a TV region was Manchester based and B2 from Holme Moss. When the regional split between Leeds and Manchester the BBC had impented a band III tx at Winter Hill on B12. Leeds continued on B2 Holme Moss and B13 Belmont. North from Leeds must have got as far as Dublin and the IoM..... The Radio4 VHF opt-outs could have come from Mancheter, Piccadilly Gardens, but I believe actually came fromm BH, Leeds?


It's hard to tell whether the Band III versions of BBC 1 at Winter Hill and Belmont were because of the severe continental interference on reception of Holme Moss, and it was then handy to use them to split Manchester from Leeds, or they were established because of that desired split, and the improved reception was just a fortunate by-product ?

Probably the former, as there was still a 2-3 gap before the split occurred (really, in response to the ITA splitting the ITV North franchise in half ?)

By the way, today is the 52nd anniversary of Emley Moor collapsing.


I thought it was to facilitate that split, to get Look North from Leeds up and running before YTV came on air?


I've just checked, BBC 1 Winter Hill came on air on April 20th 1964, (same day that BBC2 launched in London as an aside) so that was over four years before the YTV launch. The ITA won't have even thought about splitting the north in 1964.
So if must have been the interference issue, and nothing to do with region splitting?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I'm mixing anecdotes. There was a rush to get Look North Leeds on as a spoiler for YTV, but it was the studio end and circuits into Holme Moss from Leeds.
CO
commseng
Leeds to Holme Moss would just be one hop of radio link?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
When the dish at HM isn't getting pelted by falling ice, yes

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/mypension/en/prospero_oct_2020.pdf

Not sure how it got from the converted church studio to Leeds BH.
CO
commseng
Great story - it would have been more of an issue if the waveguide had been damaged rather than just the reflector.
Where was the converted church, how far from BH in Woodhouse Lane?
If it was closeby then to get a video circuit in wouldn't have been impossible even in a tight timescale - bear in mind it may have been over twisted pair and not co-ax!

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