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New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

To replace Gill Sans in print and on screen (May 2017)

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NG
noggin Founding member
I was a bit confused when the justification given for the font change was that it was unsuited to long form articles on the web. What webpages does the BBC use Gill Sans for the main body of text?


I think that's the point. The BBC's current (or is it now previous?) corporate typeface, Gill Sans, wasn't suitable for long form text, so it wasn't used, and the corporate brand was diluted a bit.

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Plus the usual BS about it being "optimised for the digital age", a phrase that has been recycled since about 1987 (probably)


I think the point is that if you CAN have a corporate typeface that you can use on-screen, on-line, on-mobile etc. rather than needing to switch out to different typefaces for different outlets, you enhance your brand.

By owning your own typeface you both ensure a unique element of your brand AND avoid the nasty licensing gotchas that lots of other typefaces will incur. (As anyone who has had to try and deploy graphics across multiple outlets and platforms when a designer has 'found a nice typeface that's perfect' and designed a brand around it, only to discover it's heinously expensive to license will know...)
VM
VMPhil
I was a bit confused when the justification given for the font change was that it was unsuited to long form articles on the web. What webpages does the BBC use Gill Sans for the main body of text?


I think that's the point. The BBC's current (or is it now previous?) corporate typeface, Gill Sans, wasn't suitable for long form text, so it wasn't used, and the corporate brand was diluted a bit.

I really don't think they'll be using the same typeface for headings as well as the main body text.
RE
Rex
I'm a bit confused. I hope they don't change the blocks to BBC Reith

They’re not changing the font of the blocks - it will stay as it is in Gill Sans.

It will be displaced as the main corporate typeface of the BBC by BBC Reith - the designers talked about the suitability of the font in long-form journalism and saving money from using other fonts.
PF
PFML84
So how long do we think it will take for it to appear on here and people start using it in mocks?
MW
Mike W
So how long do we think it will take for it to appear on here and people start using it in mocks?

If they embed it was a webfont, 1 day from launch? I predict lots of orange,red and white rectangles with BBC Reith sans in them with names against a lime green background, to show that's where the presenters would be... Or BBC One mocks where 'one' is replaced with 'one' in Reith Sans
BA
bilky asko
I was a bit confused when the justification given for the font change was that it was unsuited to long form articles on the web. What webpages does the BBC use Gill Sans for the main body of text?


I think that's the point. The BBC's current (or is it now previous?) corporate typeface, Gill Sans, wasn't suitable for long form text, so it wasn't used, and the corporate brand was diluted a bit.

I really don't think they'll be using the same typeface for headings as well as the main body text.

I don't see why not, unless you're implying they won't be that consistent!
DA
davidhorman
Is anyone else wondering how much actual truth there is in all this "it's better for X, Y, and Z" and how much is just font industry marketing spiel?

Nothing wrong with Arial get off my lawn etc etc...
MY
MY83
For BBC Reith, see Guardian font family of the Berliner era
MD
mdtauk
Is anyone else wondering how much actual truth there is in all this "it's better for X, Y, and Z" and how much is just font industry marketing spiel?

Nothing wrong with Arial get off my lawn etc etc...

If anything, looking at the font, its less about marketing and trying to define an image - and more about cost cutting. The font seems safe, and ordinary. The main channels may keep a distinctive brand font with Reith used for generic slides, news, sport, etc.
MA
madmusician
The BBC Sport website is now using BBC Reith as header and body text as of this morning.
RO
rob Founding member
The BBC Sport website is now using BBC Reith as header and body text as of this morning.


A blog post about the changes.
DE88 and madmusician gave kudos
VM
VMPhil
As you may have guessed I'm not a fan of using the same font for the entire page. It looks incredibly bland. But…

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(though the bbc blocks logo itself won't change)


There is a god.

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