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New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

To replace Gill Sans in print and on screen (May 2017)

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HarryB
mdtauk posted:
It wont be a simple font replacement, I imagine the BBC will be redoing its whole graphics package.

It is also possible they will just re-render the current titles but replacing the placenames with Reith versions, as well as updated logos - but it would be a shame if they didn't at least consider changing the titles branding as well.

With lower thirds on the news, expect white text on black straps bit reminiscent of text on online content

26 days later

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iee_reith
HarryB posted:
mdtauk posted:
It wont be a simple font replacement, I imagine the BBC will be redoing its whole graphics package.

It is also possible they will just re-render the current titles but replacing the placenames with Reith versions, as well as updated logos - but it would be a shame if they didn't at least consider changing the titles branding as well.

With lower thirds on the news, expect white text on black straps bit reminiscent of text on online content


Reith seems to have rolled-out over much of the BBC website now, but the News page is noticeable lacking it - particularly as it was partly created for long-form journalism (as seen in the BBC Four show Two Types: The Faces of Britain ).

Appreciating BBC News has more pressing tasks and up-to-the-wire deadlines, does anyone in-the-know have any info on when the News site might be converted? For me, Reith is much more readable. Some BBC News programmes seem to use it - I guess where the graphics package has been freshly created, but it's a slow roll-out...
RO
roo
iee_reith posted:
HarryB posted:
mdtauk posted:
It wont be a simple font replacement, I imagine the BBC will be redoing its whole graphics package.

It is also possible they will just re-render the current titles but replacing the placenames with Reith versions, as well as updated logos - but it would be a shame if they didn't at least consider changing the titles branding as well.

With lower thirds on the news, expect white text on black straps bit reminiscent of text on online content


Reith seems to have rolled-out over much of the BBC website now, but the News page is noticeable lacking it - particularly as it was partly created for long-form journalism (as seen in the BBC Four show Two Types: The Faces of Britain ).

Appreciating BBC News has more pressing tasks and up-to-the-wire deadlines, does anyone in-the-know have any info on when the News site might be converted? For me, Reith is much more readable. Some BBC News programmes seem to use it - I guess where the graphics package has been freshly created, but it's a slow roll-out...

Part of the delay is that News consists of a few different products (front page, articles, WS2020, the upcoming New Article, topic pages etc.) and updating them all simultaneously is not trivial when News devs' time is already quite stretched. The adoption of Reith on Cymru was proof of concept of all this but hasn't been without issues, but it really shouldn't be much longer now before you start seeing it Wink
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PF
PFML84
I wonder if they'll finally fix the width issue with the News pages once they update the style to include Reith...?
IE
iee_reith
roo posted:
iee_reith posted:
HarryB posted:
With lower thirds on the news, expect white text on black straps bit reminiscent of text on online content


Reith seems to have rolled-out over much of the BBC website now, but the News page is noticeable lacking it - particularly as it was partly created for long-form journalism (as seen in the BBC Four show Two Types: The Faces of Britain ).

Appreciating BBC News has more pressing tasks and up-to-the-wire deadlines, does anyone in-the-know have any info on when the News site might be converted? For me, Reith is much more readable. Some BBC News programmes seem to use it - I guess where the graphics package has been freshly created, but it's a slow roll-out...

Part of the delay is that News consists of a few different products (front page, articles, WS2020, the upcoming New Article, topic pages etc.) and updating them all simultaneously is not trivial when News devs' time is already quite stretched. The adoption of Reith on Cymru was proof of concept of all this but hasn't been without issues, but it really shouldn't be much longer now before you start seeing it Wink


Thanks so much for your reply - I thought that might be the case in terms of lots of different products. There was a BBC Sounds development blog post effectively saying News has a whole other system of user data which doesn't currently integrate with iPlayer etc...or something to that effect. Also appreciate it'll be much lower down a fast-moving news organisation's priorities. That said, having now had a look - Cymru looks great and so much easier on the eye!

P.S. I've tried searching the forum to answer this question, but didn't find what I'm after...what is New Article and WS2020?
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roo
iee_reith posted:
roo posted:
iee_reith posted:

Reith seems to have rolled-out over much of the BBC website now, but the News page is noticeable lacking it - particularly as it was partly created for long-form journalism (as seen in the BBC Four show Two Types: The Faces of Britain ).

Appreciating BBC News has more pressing tasks and up-to-the-wire deadlines, does anyone in-the-know have any info on when the News site might be converted? For me, Reith is much more readable. Some BBC News programmes seem to use it - I guess where the graphics package has been freshly created, but it's a slow roll-out...

Part of the delay is that News consists of a few different products (front page, articles, WS2020, the upcoming New Article, topic pages etc.) and updating them all simultaneously is not trivial when News devs' time is already quite stretched. The adoption of Reith on Cymru was proof of concept of all this but hasn't been without issues, but it really shouldn't be much longer now before you start seeing it Wink


Thanks so much for your reply - I thought that might be the case in terms of lots of different products. There was a BBC Sounds development blog post effectively saying News has a whole other system of user data which doesn't currently integrate with iPlayer etc...or something to that effect. Also appreciate it'll be much lower down a fast-moving news organisation's priorities. That said, having now had a look - Cymru looks great and so much easier on the eye!

P.S. I've tried searching the forum to answer this question, but didn't find what I'm after...what is New Article and WS2020?

The new World Service language services run from a shared platform, and the New Article is an upcoming rewrite of the news article renderer which will debut quite soon.

8 days later

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Earlie37
Not sure if it's just randomly me but is anyone else now getting a widescreen version of the BBC News website in Reith at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education ?

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Sh1ruba
Well, Reith strikes again
JA
JAS84
Must be test, as it's just that one page. Other sections are still Arial/Helvetica, and so are the articles.
PF
PFML84
Hopefully the wider frame is used across the pages and articles when Reith becomes the norm.
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Stuart
I notice that the home page is now entirely Reith. It looks good, but rather inconsistent that the sub-pages are not.
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Brekkie
I believe inconsistency is rule 1.1 of the BBC branding guidelines.

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