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Si-Co posted:

As for Young Doctors and ACP, they could have continued to show these locally in opposite time slots (TTT were ahead in Doctors but behind in ACP) so they could have shown ACP five times a week and Young Doctors twice, while YTV did the opposite, to bridge some of the gap. Blockbusters, as you say, would have been harder to schedule but not impossible. I assume they YTV didn't want to employ someone extra at Newcastle to press play.


The same guy could have done this at Leeds? it must have been able, how else would the explain the play out of the local news? Yorkshire had to skip the follow Ep765-979 of the Sullivans.
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Si-Co
Si-Co posted:

As for Young Doctors and ACP, they could have continued to show these locally in opposite time slots (TTT were ahead in Doctors but behind in ACP) so they could have shown ACP five times a week and Young Doctors twice, while YTV did the opposite, to bridge some of the gap. Blockbusters, as you say, would have been harder to schedule but not impossible. I assume they YTV didn't want to employ someone extra at Newcastle to press play.


The same guy could have done this at Leeds? it must have been able, how else would the explain the play out of the local news? Yorkshire had to skip the follow Ep765-979 of the Sullivans.


Yes - and as jjne says, YTV normally played out two copies of programmes, so they could have played out a separate episode/programme to each feed. Not sure what you mean about The Sullivans - YTV discontinued showing that about ten years before the merger!
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Si-Co posted:
Si-Co posted:

As for Young Doctors and ACP, they could have continued to show these locally in opposite time slots (TTT were ahead in Doctors but behind in ACP) so they could have shown ACP five times a week and Young Doctors twice, while YTV did the opposite, to bridge some of the gap. Blockbusters, as you say, would have been harder to schedule but not impossible. I assume they YTV didn't want to employ someone extra at Newcastle to press play.


The same guy could have done this at Leeds? it must have been able, how else would the explain the play out of the local news? Yorkshire had to skip the follow Ep765-979 of the Sullivans.


Yes - and as jjne says, YTV normally played out two copies of programmes, so they could have played out a separate episode/programme to each feed. Not sure what you mean about The Sullivans - YTV discontinued showing that about ten years before the merger!


I have just released that, It got mixed up with young doctors Embarassed
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Well the excite date were

* STV * 9, 16, 23 July 1981 and 6, 13, 20, 27 August 1981: No episode on 30 July, a network show by ATV was broadcast instead called "Years of lightning: 1967"

* Grampian tv did it at 5.15: ON **30 June** ---- 7th 14th 21st, 28th July -- 4th 11th August:



It seems LWT also repeated Series one: Firday nights at 11pm 18 July - 29 August 1980:

BUT there did not screen this episodes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJoQFJzwM_g No8, the one with Potical Broadcast and the world war 3 night:

Original compan did a repeat and two Scottish company did it aswell, SO Can anyone else remember "End of Part one" being repeated in any of the other ITV Areas~?
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ColonelRed
jjne posted:
Did Border play out their own trailers etc or was this also taken over by Granada?



Interesting. So effectively the only real change was that ads and locally-scheduled programmes came up the line from Manchester and all Border played out themselves was local news and the odd local (ie. Border only) programme? So they would still link up to say YTV for a clean feed of Emmerdale, but then link to a feed from Granada for the commercial break, and then rejoin YTV for part two of Emmerdale. To a layman like myself, that sounds more complicated than playing out the ads themselves or having everything routed via Granada! I can see how it saved money having the ads sold and played out from Manchester, but it would appear to involve more switching than the previous arrangement.

I'm told that the switch to the Granada feed for Sons and Daughters took place over Christmas 1993 - the last 'Border' episode was shown on 22/12/93 and the first 'Granada' one on 29/12/93, a jump of 81 episodes.



Yes thats right, Border did local news, local programmes, and programmes that they showed if they opted out of the Granada schedule. They would still link up for all the network programmes. The saving to Border was the cost of their VT department who compiled the ad breaks, and it also saved them a major capital investment, as they were about to buy a new ad playout system, which was quickly shelved.

That rings a bell with Sons and Daughters, Prisoner, from memory, was in February/March 1994
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But if borders and Grampian followed the same line up on Saturdays does this mean it was still played out from Granada?
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ColonelRed
But if borders and Grampian followed the same line up on Saturdays does this mean it was still played out from Granada?


No it was networked one month from Carlisle, the next month from Aberdeen. The only thing played out from Granada were the ad breaks for Border. At the time Border also produced all Grampians promos.
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Well the excite date were
* STV * 9, 16, 23 July 1981 and 6, 13, 20, 27 August 1981: No episode on 30 July, a network show by ATV was broadcast instead called "Years of lightning: 1967"

* Grampian tv did it at 5.15: ON **30 June** ---- 7th 14th 21st, 28th July -- 4th 11th August:

* It seems LWT also repeated Series one: Firday nights at 11pm 18 July - 29 August 1980:

Original company did a repeat and two Scottish company did it aswell, SO Can anyone else remember "End of Part one" being repeated in any of the other ITV Areas~?


I have found out, LWT repeat series 2! I can state at least 3 other itv compaines also repeated the series: more details to follow:
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* Anglia: During October and November 1981 around 17.15
* Southern: During August and September 1981
* TSW: Thursday Afternoons January - March 1982

That is all I can found of the repeats, I wonder why it was done by the smaller companies.
JE
Jez Founding member
Si-Co posted:

As for Young Doctors and ACP, they could have continued to show these locally in opposite time slots (TTT were ahead in Doctors but behind in ACP) so they could have shown ACP five times a week and Young Doctors twice, while YTV did the opposite, to bridge some of the gap. Blockbusters, as you say, would have been harder to schedule but not impossible. I assume they YTV didn't want to employ someone extra at Newcastle to press play.


The same guy could have done this at Leeds? it must have been able, how else would the explain the play out of the local news? Yorkshire had to skip the follow Ep765-979 of the Sullivans.


It seems silly that episodes of Prisoner, The Young Doctors and ACP were skipped, couldn't they have just carried on showing them as a regional variation until they caught up, as has been suggested already YTV could have shown more The Young Doctors and less ACP, Tyne Tees could have easily slotted in 3 episodes of Prisoner back to back.

A lot of regions didnt seem to like The Sullivans, although Thames liked it - a few dropped it in the early 80s and others took ages and ages to show it. I remember it being on HTV for years and years on Mon/Tues, they were still showing it In 1993. TSW was so slow at showing it Westcountry had taken over that franchise and they showed it for a while.
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Si-Co
Jez posted:
Si-Co posted:

As for Young Doctors and ACP, they could have continued to show these locally in opposite time slots (TTT were ahead in Doctors but behind in ACP) so they could have shown ACP five times a week and Young Doctors twice, while YTV did the opposite, to bridge some of the gap. Blockbusters, as you say, would have been harder to schedule but not impossible. I assume they YTV didn't want to employ someone extra at Newcastle to press play.


The same guy could have done this at Leeds? it must have been able, how else would the explain the play out of the local news? Yorkshire had to skip the follow Ep765-979 of the Sullivans.


It seems silly that episodes of Prisoner, The Young Doctors and ACP were skipped, couldn't they have just carried on showing them as a regional variation until they caught up, as has been suggested already YTV could have shown more The Young Doctors and less ACP, Tyne Tees could have easily slotted in 3 episodes of Prisoner back to back.

A lot of regions didnt seem to like The Sullivans, although Thames liked it - a few dropped it in the early 80s and others took ages and ages to show it. I remember it being on HTV for years and years on Mon/Tues, they were still showing it In 1993. TSW was so slow at showing it Westcountry had taken over that franchise and they showed it for a while.


The original plan, and statement, from YTV/TTT was that regionally-scheduled soaps would continue at local pace, without viewers missing any episodes, but in the end that didn't happen, of course. I'm assuming, whatever explanation was given, it was purely a financial decision.
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ColonelRed
Si-Co posted:
Jez posted:
Si-Co posted:

As for Young Doctors and ACP, they could have continued to show these locally in opposite time slots (TTT were ahead in Doctors but behind in ACP) so they could have shown ACP five times a week and Young Doctors twice, while YTV did the opposite, to bridge some of the gap. Blockbusters, as you say, would have been harder to schedule but not impossible. I assume they YTV didn't want to employ someone extra at Newcastle to press play.


The same guy could have done this at Leeds? it must have been able, how else would the explain the play out of the local news? Yorkshire had to skip the follow Ep765-979 of the Sullivans.


It seems silly that episodes of Prisoner, The Young Doctors and ACP were skipped, couldn't they have just carried on showing them as a regional variation until they caught up, as has been suggested already YTV could have shown more The Young Doctors and less ACP, Tyne Tees could have easily slotted in 3 episodes of Prisoner back to back.

A lot of regions didnt seem to like The Sullivans, although Thames liked it - a few dropped it in the early 80s and others took ages and ages to show it. I remember it being on HTV for years and years on Mon/Tues, they were still showing it In 1993. TSW was so slow at showing it Westcountry had taken over that franchise and they showed it for a while.


The original plan, and statement, from YTV/TTT was that regionally-scheduled soaps would continue at local pace, without viewers missing any episodes, but in the end that didn't happen, of course. I'm assuming, whatever explanation was given, it was purely a financial decision.


Exactly the same thing happened in Border country

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