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ColonelRed
Steven O posted:
robertclark125 posted:
When we're talking about Networked ITV, a poignant question here. When Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over Lockerbie, I know that there were numerous news reports on BBC and STV (Sky news was not around then), and I do recall longer regional bulletins on both BBC Scotland and STV.

But, what did Border do? I ask this is Lockerbie is, to this day, not actually in STV territory. In addition, did Border carry STV news reports, and vice versa? And did ITN use any reports made by Border TV and/or STV?

During the late film, Magnum Force, emergency contact numbers were flashed up on the screen at regular intervals, and at the start of every ad break, ITN had a newsflash. I can't recall there ever being any STV opt outs for their own reports, so what did Border do?


AFAIK, as soon the news broke, Border sent reporters and a film crew up to Lockerbie to cover the story - it was their footage which featured on the ITN news reports.


Border did live newsflashes in all the ad breaks, starting from memory just before Coronation Street - they were sourced from continuity - Jenny Farish was the announcer on duty. I also remember a caption being keyed on the next programme, which from memory was Des O'Connor Tonight, asking all medical personnel to report to Dumfries Infirmary immediately. Their reporter on the spot, from memory Ian Fisher, did lives to News at Ten via phone
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A former member
623058 posted:
Andrew Wood posted:
A quickie about Sesame Street. ATV produced a special in 1973 'Julie on Sesame Street' - YT vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAGbX01aUHE&feature=related - but it doesn't appear to have been broadcast in the UK (at least, a UK transmission isn't listed in the BFI database).
Nice 'ATV in Colour' (not Color!) and ITC captions in the closing credits.


I have found out this special was taped in the UK, so a new street set was built, which is different from the US set.
You have guesses its was at ATV Studios, ( Elstree )

IT DID go out in the on itv: Wednesday, July 10, 1974 at 8pm Networked. and the following week Julie and Dick in convert Gardens 17th July. You would have thought ATV would have broadcast SS well before 1978?



I have been doing some more digging and have managed to found this: Response about the BBC rejections.

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RO
robertclark125
On youtube there are various BBC and ITN clips of the breaking news at Lockerbie, and on ITV it came at the end of a Thames production, probably Des o Connor tonight. Alaister Stewart was in a blue studio with the news.

Don't recall any captions going on STV until the late film.
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Si-Co
robertclark125 posted:
On youtube there are various BBC and ITN clips of the breaking news at Lockerbie, and on ITV it came at the end of a Thames production, probably Des o Connor tonight. Alaister Stewart was in a blue studio with the news.

Don't recall any captions going on STV until the late film.


The first ITN report was after This is Your Life, I believe - circa 19:25.
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A former member
Si-Co posted:
robertclark125 posted:
On youtube there are various BBC and ITN clips of the breaking news at Lockerbie, and on ITV it came at the end of a Thames production, probably Des o Connor tonight. Alaister Stewart was in a blue studio with the news.

Don't recall any captions going on STV until the late film.


The first ITN report was after This is Your Life, I believe - circa 19:25.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgedAlze9P0

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There was live report with Kay adams live from the town: I take it this was only seen on the STV during the whole evening, also she was the( one of the) first on the screen was she not?
Last edited by A former member on 11 August 2011 3:46pm
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Markymark
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Si-Co posted:
robertclark125 posted:
On youtube there are various BBC and ITN clips of the breaking news at Lockerbie, and on ITV it came at the end of a Thames production, probably Des o Connor tonight. Alaister Stewart was in a blue studio with the news.

Don't recall any captions going on STV until the late film.


The first ITN report was after This is Your Life, I believe - circa 19:25.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgedAlze9P0

That seems a little early for that amount of detail in that ITN newsflash. The aircraft vanished from radar screens at about 19:05hrs. I was listening to the radio that night, and I don't recall any newsflashes before 20:00hrs. Radio newsflashes (it was ILR station County Sound) would have been organised faster than TV ?
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robertclark125
[quote="Markymark" pid="718433"]
623058 posted:
Si-Co posted:
robertclark125 posted:
On youtube there are various BBC and ITN clips of the breaking news at Lockerbie, and on ITV it came at the end of a Thames production, probably Des o Connor tonight. Alaister Stewart was in a blue studio with the news.

Don't recall any captions going on STV until the late film.


The first ITN report was after This is Your Life, I believe - circa 19:25.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgedAlze9P0

That seems a little early for that amount of detail in that ITN newsflash. The aircraft vanished from radar screens at about 19:05hrs. I was listening to the radio that night, and I don't recall any newsflashes before 20:00hrs. Radio newsflashes (it was ILR station County Sound) would have been organised faster than TV ?


The first BBC News reports came on Ceefax after 8pm, about 8.30 I reckon. My mum and dad called me through to read it. The newsflash on BBC2 was actually precedded by one before Points of view on BBC1 at 8.50, with Michael Buerk in the Nine o Clock News studio. I'd reckon the timing of the ITN newsflash is about 8.55pm.
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A former member
Does this mean STV and borders did there own opt outs then? Saying that do any of the clip appear on web>
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Steve Williams
robertclark125 posted:
The first BBC News reports came on Ceefax after 8pm, about 8.30 I reckon. My mum and dad called me through to read it. The newsflash on BBC2 was actually precedded by one before Points of view on BBC1 at 8.50, with Michael Buerk in the Nine o Clock News studio. I'd reckon the timing of the ITN newsflash is about 8.55pm.


At the screening of stuff from the Bob Monkhouse archive at BAFTA the other year, one of the things we were shown was a newsflash from that night, in the ad break of Des O'Connor Tonight (because it was preceded with a break bumper). Presumably that newsflash was about 8.40 during the ads and the one on YouTube is after Des. The fact Stewart refers to the next news being on News at Ten woud also suggest it was nearer nine than eight.

On one of the sites featuring old TV technicians there are some anecdotes from a former presentation editor at the Beeb who said that they were on duty that night and the news were on the phone demanding to start at 9pm on the dot, and she had to point out they couldn't because the newsflash they'd just done at 8.50 had now meant Points of View started late.
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Steven O
623058 posted:
Si-Co posted:
robertclark125 posted:
On youtube there are various BBC and ITN clips of the breaking news at Lockerbie, and on ITV it came at the end of a Thames production, probably Des o Connor tonight. Alaister Stewart was in a blue studio with the news.

Don't recall any captions going on STV until the late film.


The first ITN report was after This is Your Life, I believe - circa 19:25.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgedAlze9P0

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There was live report with Kay adams live from the town: I take it this was only seen on the STV during the whole evening, also she was the( one of the) first on the screen was she not?


No, Border were first on the scene. Remember they only had to to come from Carlisle; STV had to come all the way down from Glasgow.
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A former member
Steven O posted:
623058 posted:

The first ITN report was after This is Your Life, I believe - circa 19:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgedAlze9P0
There was live report with Kay adams live from the town: I take it this was only seen on the STV during the whole evening, also she was the( one of the) first on the screen was she not?


No, Border were first on the scene. Remember they only had to to come from Carlisle; STV had to come all the way down from Glasgow.


Thats not what Kay Adams said; Confused http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Living/article/12561c2/kaye-adams-covering-the-news-from-all-angles.html I wonder where that job was:

Quote:
She was one of the first journalists on the scene when the Lockerbie disaster occurred in December 1988. "I had been at another job quite nearby and we went there as soon as the first reports came in.

"Early reports were saying a military jet crashed into a hill near Lockerbie, but as we were driving it became apparent it was a commercial plane and it had landed on Lockerbie.

"The scene was completely outside anything I — and I think anyone else at the scene — had ever encountered before. As a reporter you're used to coping with some horrible scenes, murders and child abductions, but this was off everyone's radar."
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RB
RB
My memory (which might be faulty) is that on Border, the first we knew that something was afoot re Lockerbie disaster was a static caption overlaid over normal programming asking all staff from a Dumfries hospital to report to work. I think it told them not to ring the hospital, just to go.
It was written in Border's usual (at the time) font, Avant Garde.
Wonder if that would be possible today?

Sorry just seen this has been mentioned above.
Last edited by RB on 12 August 2011 11:39am

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