WE
I've mentioned this on here before, but I remember the one Sunday afternoon that the film 'Airport' was being shown across most regions, but there was a 5 minute difference between certain groups (GMG & Carlton) depending on whether the regional news was being shown at 2pm or not!
Slightly off topic, anyone remember Central going tits up one Sunday afternoon & ending up with LWT presentation/programmes intially then 'ITV1' presentation until mid the Sunday evening?
There was a good thread on it at the time ISTR, as they had further problems during that week.
Nowadays all you would lose is 'Central News' as transmission comes from Leeds & you'd get London news.
(How come you wouldn't get Granada or Yorkshire news instead?)
Slightly off topic, anyone remember Central going tits up one Sunday afternoon & ending up with LWT presentation/programmes intially then 'ITV1' presentation until mid the Sunday evening?
There was a good thread on it at the time ISTR, as they had further problems during that week.
Nowadays all you would lose is 'Central News' as transmission comes from Leeds & you'd get London news.
(How come you wouldn't get Granada or Yorkshire news instead?)
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A former member
When Grandstand was on BBC1, especially up til the late 1990s, the national regions on BBC1 sometimes opted out, mainly to show Rugby Union, such as the then 5 nations. This was when both games took place at nearly the same time. I recall BBC Wales always showed the Welsh rugby cup final live as well on Grandstand, as grandstand from wales.
So, turning to ITV, did any of the ITV regions opt out, say STV showing the Scottish Cup Final, as World of Sport from Scotland, or Wales or whatever? In that instance, they would show a mixture of some action that would be seen on the main WOS, as well as the main even on the opt out, with the whole lot being hosted from Scotland?
So, turning to ITV, did any of the ITV regions opt out, say STV showing the Scottish Cup Final, as World of Sport from Scotland, or Wales or whatever? In that instance, they would show a mixture of some action that would be seen on the main WOS, as well as the main even on the opt out, with the whole lot being hosted from Scotland?
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SC
Was the feed actually timeshifted though - or the film played out from two locations - or was it merely scheduled differently in the different regions, but essentially networked simulataneously?
I remember that networked shows after News at Ten (eg. Soap) would be scheduled at 10.30, 10.32, 10.35 or even 10.37 depending on where you lived, and whether the local news bulletin was classed as a programme in its own right. In reality, there was only one networked feed of the programme though, usually starting about 10.35.
I've mentioned this on here before, but I remember the one Sunday afternoon that the film 'Airport' was being shown across most regions, but there was a 5 minute difference between certain groups (GMG & Carlton) depending on whether the regional news was being shown at 2pm or not!
Was the feed actually timeshifted though - or the film played out from two locations - or was it merely scheduled differently in the different regions, but essentially networked simulataneously?
I remember that networked shows after News at Ten (eg. Soap) would be scheduled at 10.30, 10.32, 10.35 or even 10.37 depending on where you lived, and whether the local news bulletin was classed as a programme in its own right. In reality, there was only one networked feed of the programme though, usually starting about 10.35.
EX
Back in 2002 was there a lunchtime national news in the Jonathan Dimbleby programme, or has that bulletin only been introduced in the past 9 years?
What football competition was leading to the regional variations?
I remember the Sunday early evening regional slots continued for a few years longer. Yorkshire sometimes had a cookery programme on about 6pm in the mid noughties
What football competition was leading to the regional variations?
I remember the Sunday early evening regional slots continued for a few years longer. Yorkshire sometimes had a cookery programme on about 6pm in the mid noughties
WE
Was the feed actually timeshifted though - or the film played out from two locations - or was it merely scheduled differently in the different regions, but essentially networked simulataneously?
I remember looking at the time & it was definetely different scenes.
I remember thinking at the time 'For the sake of 5 minutes, why didn't they network it properly?'.
Nowadays they would.
I've mentioned this on here before, but I remember the one Sunday afternoon that the film 'Airport' was being shown across most regions, but there was a 5 minute difference between certain groups (GMG & Carlton) depending on whether the regional news was being shown at 2pm or not!
Was the feed actually timeshifted though - or the film played out from two locations - or was it merely scheduled differently in the different regions, but essentially networked simulataneously?
I remember looking at the time & it was definetely different scenes.
I remember thinking at the time 'For the sake of 5 minutes, why didn't they network it properly?'.
Nowadays they would.
BR
IIRC ITV News and the regional news aired at 1pm, with Dimbleby at 1.10pm.
Back in 2002 was there a lunchtime national news in the Jonathan Dimbleby programme, or has that bulletin only been introduced in the past 9 years?
IIRC ITV News and the regional news aired at 1pm, with Dimbleby at 1.10pm.
AN
It was when ITV had rights to the football league so would show regional fixtures on a Sunday. It was presumably a Granadaland team that week. Border probably took it for no particular reason.
Yes there was national news at the start of Dimbleby, very similar to how it is done on Andrew Marr, except the cut to ITN was often very sharp, similar to how the cuts to regional news were done when they first started integrating them. Regional News was either at 2pm or 12.55pm depending on the region.
Notice in the listings above, Tyne Tees were showing a full length North East Tonight.
I also recall how sometimes the teatime regional news on Sundays would come up short so they would often have 'a bit of extra time' to show a quick filler, often something like Star Bites or those other shows LNN would make.
One positive point. You don't get 'Planet's Funniest Animals' on ITV1 thesedays! This was the original fully american version as well.
You used to get lots of non-regional regional fillers on a Sunday afternoon such as Stepping the World which I remember from a presentation point of view as it had a credits sequence that went on for over a minute even though only about 10 people were involved in the show. I often wondered who commissioned this sort of stuff and for where originally.
Andrew
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Back in 2002 was there a lunchtime national news in the Jonathan Dimbleby programme, or has that bulletin only been introduced in the past 9 years?
What football competition was leading to the regional variations?
I remember the Sunday early evening regional slots continued for a few years longer. Yorkshire sometimes had a cookery programme on about 6pm in the mid noughties
What football competition was leading to the regional variations?
I remember the Sunday early evening regional slots continued for a few years longer. Yorkshire sometimes had a cookery programme on about 6pm in the mid noughties
It was when ITV had rights to the football league so would show regional fixtures on a Sunday. It was presumably a Granadaland team that week. Border probably took it for no particular reason.
Yes there was national news at the start of Dimbleby, very similar to how it is done on Andrew Marr, except the cut to ITN was often very sharp, similar to how the cuts to regional news were done when they first started integrating them. Regional News was either at 2pm or 12.55pm depending on the region.
Notice in the listings above, Tyne Tees were showing a full length North East Tonight.
I also recall how sometimes the teatime regional news on Sundays would come up short so they would often have 'a bit of extra time' to show a quick filler, often something like Star Bites or those other shows LNN would make.
One positive point. You don't get 'Planet's Funniest Animals' on ITV1 thesedays! This was the original fully american version as well.
You used to get lots of non-regional regional fillers on a Sunday afternoon such as Stepping the World which I remember from a presentation point of view as it had a credits sequence that went on for over a minute even though only about 10 people were involved in the show. I often wondered who commissioned this sort of stuff and for where originally.
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TI
It was when ITV had rights to the football league so would show regional fixtures on a Sunday. It was presumably a Granadaland team that week. Border probably took it for no particular reason.
Yes there was national news at the start of Dimbleby, very similar to how it is done on Andrew Marr, except the cut to ITN was often very sharp, similar to how the cuts to regional news were done when they first started integrating them. Regional News was either at 2pm or 12.55pm depending on the region.
Notice in the listings above, Tyne Tees were showing a full length North East Tonight.
I also recall how sometimes the teatime regional news on Sundays would come up short so they would often have 'a bit of extra time' to show a quick filler, often something like Star Bites or those other shows LNN would make.
One positive point. You don't get 'Planet's Funniest Animals' on ITV1 thesedays! This was the original fully american version as well.
You used to get lots of non-regional regional fillers on a Sunday afternoon such as Stepping the World which I remember from a presentation point of view as it had a credits sequence that went on for over a minute even though only about 10 people were involved in the show. I often wondered who commissioned this sort of stuff and for where originally.
UTV got a double bill of 'Planet's Funniest Animals' on Saturday afternoon this week!
Back in 2002 was there a lunchtime national news in the Jonathan Dimbleby programme, or has that bulletin only been introduced in the past 9 years?
What football competition was leading to the regional variations?
I remember the Sunday early evening regional slots continued for a few years longer. Yorkshire sometimes had a cookery programme on about 6pm in the mid noughties
What football competition was leading to the regional variations?
I remember the Sunday early evening regional slots continued for a few years longer. Yorkshire sometimes had a cookery programme on about 6pm in the mid noughties
It was when ITV had rights to the football league so would show regional fixtures on a Sunday. It was presumably a Granadaland team that week. Border probably took it for no particular reason.
Yes there was national news at the start of Dimbleby, very similar to how it is done on Andrew Marr, except the cut to ITN was often very sharp, similar to how the cuts to regional news were done when they first started integrating them. Regional News was either at 2pm or 12.55pm depending on the region.
Notice in the listings above, Tyne Tees were showing a full length North East Tonight.
I also recall how sometimes the teatime regional news on Sundays would come up short so they would often have 'a bit of extra time' to show a quick filler, often something like Star Bites or those other shows LNN would make.
One positive point. You don't get 'Planet's Funniest Animals' on ITV1 thesedays! This was the original fully american version as well.
You used to get lots of non-regional regional fillers on a Sunday afternoon such as Stepping the World which I remember from a presentation point of view as it had a credits sequence that went on for over a minute even though only about 10 people were involved in the show. I often wondered who commissioned this sort of stuff and for where originally.
UTV got a double bill of 'Planet's Funniest Animals' on Saturday afternoon this week!
MK
Just a few more queries on Northam's continuity...
Someone said that HTV West often shared continuity announcements with Meridian & Anglia, even though, from personal observation in the Meridian & Anglia regions, dedicated announcements seemed more common. This seems natural when all three regions were under UNM control but what became of HTV West's relationship with Anglia and Meridian once the latter two came under GMG ownership whislt HTV went to Carlton? For a start, the idents were changed, so it'd be harder to do joint continuity anyway (not that it stopped Leeds doing it pre-hearts idents), but did Carlton insist on dedicated continuity for HTV West?
How did the NPU trailers and the breakbumpers work? Up north, trailers branded with only the ITV logo would go out across all GMG stations (bar LWT obviously). Although adverts were regional, I assumed that the 'ITV' heart breakbumper was also a single one across three/four stations and not regional like the adverts (am I right?). On Anglia, Meridian & HTV though, the breakbumpers were dual branded with the station names and so were the NPU trailers. So, were these run on three dedicated feeds, or was it one feed with the regional logos generated over it?
I'd also like to inquire about HTV West's relationship with HTV Wales. From what I understand, prior to UNM moving HTV West's continuity to Southampton, the two parts of HTV were effectively separate stations, with totally separate contunuity and regional programmes. Clearly, this never used to be the case and Cardiff ran the whole thing in the early days. So, when was dedicated continuity in Bristol set up? Looking at HTV's ident history on TV Ark, it shows the pre-1993 idents being branded both as HTV West, HTV Wales and also just HTV, which was apparently for joint continuity (from Cardiff I assume). When was the last joint continuity between the two HTVs? Also, if Cardiff's transmission facilities had to stay, didn't it make more sense for HTV West to go to Cardiff rather than Southampton? Obviously, the link had more of a history about it but also, the Cardiff announcers could've done both regions live and just called the station 'HTV', only needing to resort to pre-recorded stuff for regional variations.
Someone said that HTV West often shared continuity announcements with Meridian & Anglia, even though, from personal observation in the Meridian & Anglia regions, dedicated announcements seemed more common. This seems natural when all three regions were under UNM control but what became of HTV West's relationship with Anglia and Meridian once the latter two came under GMG ownership whislt HTV went to Carlton? For a start, the idents were changed, so it'd be harder to do joint continuity anyway (not that it stopped Leeds doing it pre-hearts idents), but did Carlton insist on dedicated continuity for HTV West?
How did the NPU trailers and the breakbumpers work? Up north, trailers branded with only the ITV logo would go out across all GMG stations (bar LWT obviously). Although adverts were regional, I assumed that the 'ITV' heart breakbumper was also a single one across three/four stations and not regional like the adverts (am I right?). On Anglia, Meridian & HTV though, the breakbumpers were dual branded with the station names and so were the NPU trailers. So, were these run on three dedicated feeds, or was it one feed with the regional logos generated over it?
I'd also like to inquire about HTV West's relationship with HTV Wales. From what I understand, prior to UNM moving HTV West's continuity to Southampton, the two parts of HTV were effectively separate stations, with totally separate contunuity and regional programmes. Clearly, this never used to be the case and Cardiff ran the whole thing in the early days. So, when was dedicated continuity in Bristol set up? Looking at HTV's ident history on TV Ark, it shows the pre-1993 idents being branded both as HTV West, HTV Wales and also just HTV, which was apparently for joint continuity (from Cardiff I assume). When was the last joint continuity between the two HTVs? Also, if Cardiff's transmission facilities had to stay, didn't it make more sense for HTV West to go to Cardiff rather than Southampton? Obviously, the link had more of a history about it but also, the Cardiff announcers could've done both regions live and just called the station 'HTV', only needing to resort to pre-recorded stuff for regional variations.
:-(
A former member
Here a strange thing to appear, "End of part one" series 2 was given a repeat airing by one STV , During July and August 1981, in the wonderful timeslot of 18.30. I dare say is what David Renwick and Andrew Marshall were looking for in the broadcasting the series.
The Monte carlo show, anyone remember this gem from 1981?
The Monte carlo show, anyone remember this gem from 1981?
That's interesting. As far as I'm aware, End of Part One was never repeated nationally after its initial screening. STV must have had copies of these episodes in their own archives.
Well the excite date were
* 9, 16, 23 July 1981 and 6, 13, 20, 27 August 1981
No episode on 30 July, a network show by ATV was broadcast instead called "Years of lightning: 1967" It went out on a Thursday following by the STV classy Gameshow Now you see it.
Maybe it was Series one instead? either way someone in STV liked it.
Its seems someone else broadcast a repeat as well:
Grampian tv did it at 5.15: ON **30 June** ---- 7th 14th 21st, 28th July -- 4th 11th August:
I dont see it on Borders or UTV, so did anyone else give it nice repeat? I cant see two random Scottish companies showing it again?