Networked ITV - 1990s and before...

Yes, it's the SI tables and the cross referring of services that becomes a problem. 'Local muxes' such as Channel M's in Manchester also have to ensure that they are carrying the appropriate data to incorporate the main services receivable in their area. So does that RSL TV service that Ravensbourne college runs from time to time:-

http://confluence.rave.ac.uk/confluence/display/RoA/ DTT+Transmission+Notes

Also a news report here which may be of interest.

I still think it was a sham, all the losing companies were in the same area. Also why didn't the ITC Re-tender the licenes? When at least 5 of the companies asked to lower there bids. I also how much did cpu? David frost company bid for London weekday.


Quick note. Why was emmerdale moved to 18.30 during 1988/89.

IIRC the split-fed relays in the South Lakes and the Todmorden/Walsden areas came about through area reallocations from the start of the 1982 franchise period - these were originally full relays of Winter Hill (Granada). Border took over the South Lakes relays while those around Todmorden and Walden passed to YTV, although they all retained the feed from Winter Hill for BBC1/2.

In the case of Berwick, it was a split-fed relay from when it came into service in October 1977 until becoming a full relay of Chatton in December 2006.

Then there was Haltwhistle, for a time a relay of both Pontop Pike (BBC12) and Caldbeck (ITV/C4). It was originally a full relay of Caldbeck and has now reverted to that status following the Border area DSO.

Presumably to fill the gap left by Crossroads, as that finished in April 1988.

It believed it was moved in January 1988; I take it that's wrong?

As far as I know that's correct - Crossroads was shown on Mondays and Tuesdays at 6.30 and Emmerdale Farm on Wednesdays and Thursdays at 6.30 from Jan 1988.

Quick question, was the Thames 1990 ITV ident & their final ident run at the same time for a brief while? I only ask because I have hazy memories of both appearing at the same time at some point, even if only for a short while.

Apologies if this has been asked before.

Yes, it was initially only used for regional programmes. A few weeks after they lost their franchise they ditched the 'ITV' branding totally and just used the Thames ident (I assume in that time they hurridly produced matching menus, promo graphics and slides, they were very nice though)

I'm pretty sure that the dual branding wasn't for long, certainly the local ident didn't exist when Thames first introduced their blue triangle logo.

There is a clip on youtube with 1990 ident with information. I'll post a link later on.

1990: thames idents with information ( sounds a bit different)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMyeVfpUlmI

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Anglia Television, Grampian Television, Scottish Television, TVS and Thames Television, kept Emmerdale farm at 5.15 Monday and tuesday until Dec 1987, this ment blockbuster took a longer peroied to broadcast an extra 2-3 months which help deley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_%28game_show%29

it mean that some programmes could never had went out in full such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask_No_Questions

I get the feeling that it was not only TVS that made it a weekly show instead of a daily. ( hint stv) the seems to try and fit it in for 3 day slot for about month.

Compaines not mentioned has so much free time there give this another airing! during the summer of 1987:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventurer_%28TV_series%29 and anything else to hand...

Thanks for that, I thought I imagined it for a while, I certainly do remember seeing the ITV 90 & Final playing at the same time for a short while. I agree their final ident package was great considering how rushed it was, certainly better than what followed, funny thing is that if Thames had survived the franchise round I could still see that set being used as long as the production slide lasted, wonder what the logo would have looked like though by the late 90's had they had kept their franchise (the logo they got in 97 was clearly Pearson influenced), wonder what it would have looked like with Canary Wharf, London Eye, Swiss RE & Shard Of Glass added to it?



Thanks for that link, sounds very similar to the video one (perhaps they thought the ident one was too bombastic for the tapes when they started releasing them?)

How I miss Thames, wish they had survived, however we probably still would have more or less ended up with the ITV we have now sadly, even with their presence (although I think Thames would have gone down fighting & like LWT probably would have done a celebration of their reign in some shape or form, both of those London channels were proud & were happy to be part of the network).