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Si-Co posted:
I'm not sure how reliable the information is, but several written reports of the Lockerbie crash state that TTHR had 'just finished' and This is Your Life had 'just started' when the tragedy happened. That would indicate Border showed TTHR at 6.30pm on Wednesday 21st December 1988.

Steven, if H&A was shown 5 nights a week at 6.30pm from 1989, then Border wouldn't have been able to show TTHR in that slot on Mondays and Fridays - could it not have been shown at 7pm?


During 1988/1989 Borders had H&W at 5.10pm,

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I have read that January 1988 - 1990, all ITV regions networked emmerdale farm in the Wednesday and Thursday 18.30 slot, only day free for 6.30pm on borders would be Tuesdays

I would say Borders moved H&W to 6.30pm around 1990, Where that left high road Im not sure Money could be for 7pm slot aswell?
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Steve in Pudsey
At the risk of being called a pedant, can I point out that it's "Border", not "Borders".
JJ
jjne

I would say Borders moved H&W to 6.30pm around 1990, Where that left high road Im not sure Money could be for 7pm slot aswell?


I think Border moved H&A around, or just after 1993/4, when they fully synchronised their schedule with that of Granada. They did so because Granada were showing various programmes at 5.10 and H&A at 6. Border did not want to move Lookaround so they left the Granada programmes at 5.10 and showed H&A independently.
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Steven O
jjne posted:

I would say Borders moved H&W to 6.30pm around 1990, Where that left high road Im not sure Money could be for 7pm slot aswell?


I think Border moved H&A around, or just after 1993/4, when they fully synchronised their schedule with that of Granada. They did so because Granada were showing various programmes at 5.10 and H&A at 6. Border did not want to move Lookaround so they left the Granada programmes at 5.10 and showed H&A independently.


That sounds about right. I think Border showed TTHR at 6:30pm on Monday and Friday, with Blockbusters occupying the slot from Tuesday to Thursday. After Blockbusters finished, TTHR was moved to Tuesday evenings at 7:30pm and Home & Away was moved from 5:10pm Monday to Friday (where it had been since it started) to 6:30 pm. The 5:10pm slot was then filled with various programmes, including Shortland Street.
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jjne posted:

I would say Borders moved H&W to 6.30pm around 1990, Where that left high road Im not sure Money could be for 7pm slot aswell?


I think Border moved H&A around, or just after 1993/4, when they fully synchronised their schedule with that of Granada. They did so because Granada were showing various programmes at 5.10 and H&A at 6. Border did not want to move Lookaround so they left the Granada programmes at 5.10 and showed H&A independently.


That sounds about right. I think Border showed TTHR at 6:30pm on Monday and Friday, with Blockbusters occupying the slot from Tuesday to Thursday. After Blockbusters finished, TTHR was moved to Tuesday evenings at 7:30pm and Home & Away was moved from 5:10pm Monday to Friday (where it had been since it started) to 6:30 pm. The 5:10pm slot was then filled with various programmes, including Shortland Street.



Where did emmerdale end up? was it 7pm Tuesdays and Thursdays ? from 89 - 1993? ( which would have been the same as central and anglia?
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Steve Williams
That sounds about right. I think Border showed TTHR at 6:30pm on Monday and Friday, with Blockbusters occupying the slot from Tuesday to Thursday. After Blockbusters finished, TTHR was moved to Tuesday evenings at 7:30pm and Home & Away was moved from 5:10pm Monday to Friday (where it had been since it started) to 6:30 pm. The 5:10pm slot was then filled with various programmes, including Shortland Street.


Well, I've had a look in my Radio Times and in 1992 Border were indeed showing Take The High Road on Mondays and Fridays at 6.30. I think it was 1993 when they moved Home and Away to 6.30 which saw High Road moved to, yes, the highly convenient slot of Tuesdays at 7.30pm. Think there might have been another soap in that slot that could have been a bigger draw. Then in 1997, I think, they moved Home and Away to 5.10 and High Road moved back to Friday at 6.30, then when the news moved there in 1999, it was back to Tuesdays at 7.30. Most other regions showed it on Friday afternoons, Granada had it at 5.10 for a while, but it looks like they stopped showing it in mid-1997 after the 6.30 screenings ended. And Central were still showing it in 2000, on Mondays.

HTV did indeed show Home and Away at six, they started doing so when the regional news moved to 6.30 in 1994, so I think they and Central were the last to show it at six. Emmerdale was networked everywhere at 7pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays from January 1990, only Scottish opted out.

There was also a spell in 1996 when the ITC had slagged off HTV in their performance review for crap regional shows so they immediately put regional shows on Mondays and Wednesdays at 7pm and moved the network output to 5.10. After a year, having proved their point, they moved them back.
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Well, I've had a look in my Radio Times and in 1992 Border were indeed showing Take The High Road on Mondays and Fridays at 6.30. I think it was 1993 when they moved Home and Away to 6.30 which saw High Road moved to, yes, the highly convenient slot of Tuesdays at 7.30pm. Think there might have been another soap in that slot that could have been a bigger draw. Then in 1997, I think, they moved Home and Away to 5.10 and High Road moved back to Friday at 6.30, then when the news moved there in 1999, it was back to Tuesdays at 7.30. Most other regions showed it on Friday afternoons, Granada had it at 5.10 for a while, but it looks like they stopped showing it in mid-1997 after the 6.30 screenings ended. And Central were still showing it in 2000, on Mondays


Two minor points When in 1993 did there move H&W to 6.30pm? was it late summer? TTHR still had two episode each week until September 1993. it would explain that there finished blockbuster just before this date as-well which helped free up the slot.

I wonder who networked the blockbusters for Tue/wed/Thur 6.30pm I believe it was Grampain, HTV, TT and Border that had the pleasure, do did play it out I cant see any of the big 5 using this slot.

do you know when STV were showing BB during 1992?

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HTV did indeed show Home and Away at six, they started doing so when the regional news moved to 6.30 in 1994, so I think they and Central were the last to show it at six. Emmerdale was networked everywhere at 7pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays from January 1990, only Scottish opted out.


Im sure STV started showing Emmerdale at 5.10pm from early 1993 - late 1998

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There was also a spell in 1996 when the ITC had slagged off HTV in their performance review for crap regional shows so they immediately put regional shows on Mondays and Wednesdays at 7pm and moved the network output to 5.10. After a year, having proved their point, they moved them back.


Did that included Taking telephone numbers? it used to be on Mondays at 7pm ( ie Scottish never really broadcast it) http://www.ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Talking_Telephone_Numbers how can you rebroadcast a live phone in show Laughing
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jjne
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I wonder who networked the blockbusters for Tue/wed/Thur 6.30pm I believe it was Grampain, HTV, TT and Border that had the pleasure, do did play it out I cant see any of the big 5 using this slot.


I don't know about the rest, but Tyne Tees were showing the programme on a regional basis. Indeed during 1991 and some of 1992 TTTV stopped showing BB altogether and instead had regional programming striped across the week at 6.30, with an hour-long Northern Life Monday and Wednesday (something they'd been doing for a long time). Indeed during this period TTTV were making a *lot* of local programmes -- about 15-16 hours a week including the local news for about a year or so, which only really stopped just before the takeover by YTV (and indeed they had plans to continue this, with a half-hour late local news programme each night, which never came into being). As a result they were about a year behind YTV in showing BB.
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jjne posted:

I wonder who networked the blockbusters for Tue/wed/Thur 6.30pm I believe it was Grampain, HTV, TT and Border that had the pleasure, do did play it out I cant see any of the big 5 using this slot.


I don't know about the rest, but Tyne Tees were showing the programme on a regional basis. Indeed during 1991 and some of 1992 TTTV stopped showing BB altogether and instead had regional programming striped across the week at 6.30, with an hour-long Northern Life Monday and Wednesday (something they'd been doing for a long time). Indeed during this period TTTV were making a *lot* of local programmes -- about 15-16 hours a week including the local news for about a year or so, which only really stopped just before the takeover by YTV (and indeed they had plans to continue this, with a half-hour late local news programme each night, which never came into being). As a result they were about a year behind YTV in showing BB.


So this explains how there ended up 150 episodes be-hide YTV, I think I found out who it was that played out the Network Blockbusters on Tue/wed/Thur; you guessed it: YTV it seems networked the show to as said above:

Im surprised there did not follow the same of the other compaines leads and play it out at 15.20 instead to help fill up the gap. STV ended up pushing it well in to daytime as to allow for 6.30 - 7.30pm to be used for local out put.

So TT were about to follow TVS idea of 10.30 late 30min local news? nice to know someone else had plans to do it.
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jjne
YTV networking it would sound about right -- TTTV were taking eps from YTV around 1990 IIRC.

Yes, Tyne Tees were planning a late local news programme in the same mould as TVS (Tyne Tees were unusual in wanting to increase the level of regional output -- this was before they realised that Granada were going to muscle in; before this they thought they were a shoe-in for the franchise so had made plans for expansion). This was shelved when YTV took over -- YTV had no issue with the extended news idea but did not want to muck-up the shared schedule so proposed Network North (the Teesside opt) as an alternative -- ironically this had been a proposal that Granada had made in their bid for the NE franchise!

Indeed, I've often wondered if TTTV and TVS hadn't planned some sort of arrangement around 1990/91 regarding regional provision -- they had begun taking a few programmes from each other and had made an expensive joint-regional drama series in 1990. Given the similarities in one or two of the regional aspects of the bids, it makes you wonder if they hadn't agreed on something. We'll never know I guess!
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Steven O


Two minor points When in 1993 did there move H&W to 6.30pm? was it late summer? TTHR still had two episode each week until September 1993. it would explain that there finished blockbuster just before this date as-well which helped free up the slot.


ITV stopped showing Blockbusters on Thursday September 30th, 1993. From the following Monday (4th October) Home & Away moved to the Mon-Fri 6:30pm slot.
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Two minor points When in 1993 did there move H&W to 6.30pm? was it late summer? TTHR still had two episode each week until September 1993. it would explain that there finished blockbuster just before this date as-well which helped free up the slot.


ITV stopped showing Blockbusters on Thursday September 30th, 1993. From the following Monday (4th October) Home & Away moved to the Mon-Fri 6:30pm slot.



By logic then; Grampain, Htv, tynn tees, utv and yorkshire must have finshed, on the same day.
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