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I think it's supposed to look like that
Dan is right. Unfortuantely, that's how it's meant to look. They really should stop using ECP's. They seem to cause nothing but hassle and headaches for Presentation.
A former member
Dan posted:
BBC TV Centre posted:
They also messed up the 6pm ECP too. They squashed the whole picture and left lots of red on the right side.
I think it's supposed to look like that
Dan is right. Unfortuantely, that's how it's meant to look. They really should stop using ECP's. They seem to cause nothing but hassle and headaches for Presentation.
DA
...although of course the way they're done technically (a box has different video sources routed into it and displays them in a certain way, while another box attempts to mix two audio sources - i.e. the whole thing is created 'live') isn't necessarily the most reliable way of doing ECPs.
Dan
Founding member
Russell posted:
Dan is right. Unfortuantely, that's how it's meant to look. They really should stop using ECP's. They seem to cause nothing but hassle and headaches for Presentation.
...although of course the way they're done technically (a box has different video sources routed into it and displays them in a certain way, while another box attempts to mix two audio sources - i.e. the whole thing is created 'live') isn't necessarily the most reliable way of doing ECPs.
KA
They changed them to this 4:3 safe style about 3 weeks ago, before that they were 14:9 safe.
Example Here - Right Click - Save Target As...
BBC TV Centre posted:
They also messed up the 6pm ECP too. They squashed the whole picture and left lots of red on the right side.
They changed them to this 4:3 safe style about 3 weeks ago, before that they were 14:9 safe.
Example Here - Right Click - Save Target As...
:-(
A former member
Why have they all of a sudden changed them to 4:3 safe? They have been 14:9 safe for ages.
SC
I totally appreciate your point marksi.
Exactly. Whether we like it or not, ECPs are here to stay. So has the BBC considered other ways of generating ECPs, perhaps actually producing a ECP-friendly split-screen end-credits sequence (popular overseas, notably America and Australia) and having these burned onto the playout tapes. Here's an example I quite like:
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/5042/credits31yb.jpg
The 'Next Time' promos (where applicable) and any other promo (eg. what's on next) could play out in a box on the left, for example, then the music could fade back up with the final frames of the credits being full-screen - thus allowing a little 'spare time' for any live continuity that was necessary. The 'Now' caption at the bottom could be replaced with 'Next on BBC1', etc.
marksi posted:
You see the difference between when your computer system in work goes wrong, and when the computer system I use in work goes wrong is that no one knows about your problem except you. Whereas a similarly small problem can create something that a large number of people see, for me and my colleagues.
I totally appreciate your point marksi.
Dan posted:
...although of course the way they're done technically (a box has different video sources routed into it and displays them in a certain way, while another box attempts to mix two audio sources - i.e. the whole thing is created 'live') isn't necessarily the most reliable way of doing ECPs.
Exactly. Whether we like it or not, ECPs are here to stay. So has the BBC considered other ways of generating ECPs, perhaps actually producing a ECP-friendly split-screen end-credits sequence (popular overseas, notably America and Australia) and having these burned onto the playout tapes. Here's an example I quite like:
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/5042/credits31yb.jpg
The 'Next Time' promos (where applicable) and any other promo (eg. what's on next) could play out in a box on the left, for example, then the music could fade back up with the final frames of the credits being full-screen - thus allowing a little 'spare time' for any live continuity that was necessary. The 'Now' caption at the bottom could be replaced with 'Next on BBC1', etc.
MA
Burning them onto transmission copies of tapes is a very inefficient way of doing things. It means the metadata accompanying the programme and the programme itself can only be used once and must be re-created next time it goes out. Plus if you put a programme on air and then the ECP becomes irrelevant (schedule change etc) or you just want to drop it for editorial reasons, it becomes very difficult. Plus in the case of the BBC, if a Nation wants a clean copy then you'd have to send out a tape, which is fine the odd time, but not something you'd want to be doing all the time - costs would be prohibitive. Plus you'd double the costs of reviewing the transmission copies...