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Nations vs Regions

(September 2012)

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Inspector Sands
If the network bulletin covered Scotland's news needs too there'd be no call for reporting Scotland!2

Well, it should cover stories that happen in Scotland which are important/interesting enough to make the national news.

Like any part of the country there is an editorial distinction between (for example) a Manchester story and a story that happened in Manchester. The same with Scotland... and London for that matter
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 19 September 2012 9:48pm
IS
Inspector Sands
Scotland is a nation, yes?

It's a 'nation' in BBC terminology. You'll get your vote in 2014 to decide if it really is one.

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Which means its Scotlands national news?

That's the slogan they use I believe

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So its national news should be in the ational news slot

No, the UK national news should be in the national news slot

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with its own regions in the regional slot?

In an ideal world yes, although splitting up Scotland into regions would be pushing it not only in terms of cost but also how much news is there to go round?
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A former member
with its own regions in the regional slot?
In an ideal world yes, although splitting up Scotland into regions would be pushing it not only in terms of cost but also how much news is there to go round?


STV is already doing that with far less money then the bbc spends on its Scottish news services. .... Wink
JJ
jjne
Scotland is a nation, yes? Which means its Scotlands national news? So its national news should be in the ational news slot, with its own regions in the regional slot?


Vote for Scottish independence and you may get your wish.
DK
DanielK
Nope because we'll lose the half decent programmes and get the Scottish history bulls*** (I starred that myself) that STV try to slot in whenever they can!
IS
Inspector Sands
STV is already doing that with far less money then the bbc spends on its Scottish news services. .... Wink

Yes, that's true. But what's the quality like and how much content do they share, especially the Edinburgh one that only covers half a million people

The BBC do do local news for Scotland both online and on radio
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A former member
STV is already doing that with far less money then the bbc spends on its Scottish news services. .... Wink

Yes, that's true. But what's the quality like and how much content do they share, especially the Edinburgh one that only covers half a million people


Apart form the cheap looking desk it very decent Quality, but it does get news stories of Aberdeen and Glasgow, as it cover all of Scotland, lnot just the news In the east. you can view the 6pm news online.
MI
Michael
Nope because we'll lose the half decent programmes and get the Scottish history bulls*** (I starred that myself) that STV try to slot in whenever they can!


So you want less programmes about Scotland yet more news about Scotland? Confused
DK
DanielK
Less history crap, it's the past, leave it there. Its not like the news which may be connected to the past, so its different.
MK
Mr Kite
Is this a Braveheartist thread? I mean, I do have something to say on the whole 'nations and regions' malarky that we contend with in this country but if it is a Braveheartist thread, I'd rather not waste my time.
DK
DanielK
Not at all, I'm only using Scotland because that's what I watch and have experienced.
MK
Mr Kite
Okay then, I'll tell you. I think it's all complete crap. Basically, the whole 'nations & regions' thing does nothing but make Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland out be colonies of the UK, whilst England doesn't actually exist and is just a collection of generic 'British' regions.

I'm from Liverpool. I'm more or less right next to Wales, yet that's supposedly an entirely different part of the world or 'nation', despite not feeling all that different when I visit. It's certainly not foreign in anyway, regardless of the extra language that's present on the signs etc. Furthermore, Liverpool is supposedly part of a 'region' imaginatively called the North West, whose capital is Manchester, which, whilst not including places as nearby as Saltney or Flint, happens to include Carlisle which is ages away, though BBC-land views them as geordies.

It has pros and cons whether you're a 'nation' or 'region'. Being a 'nation' you get lots of tokenistic stuff recognising said 'nation'. 'National' news, various programmes that are 'national', a continuity announcer that introduces Eastenders in the appropriate accent. Regions get no 'national' news as they're not nations apparently, rather it's 'regional' news. As the regions are supposedly culturally generic British, they don't need special cultural programmes. What the 'regions' do get though is local radio. The 'nations' don't get anything of the sort which stems from the idea that all three of them are basically large villages which are culturally homogenus.

It's all crap but the people who run the country don't really know it that well outside their own bubble.

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