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pear
how many names would they need to bring it back and also who would they have to go through to get it reinstalled.
also have they got enough power to make the bbc reuse it again or not?
also have they got enough power to make the bbc reuse it again or not?
SO
In the early days of ITV (when Granada covered the North) one meat-pie manufacturer in Sheffield apparently withdrew his advertising because Granada didn't play the National Anthem at closedown.
nwtv2003 posted:
Why has it taken them 9 Years to think of something like this? It seems rather odd to me, yes I do see their point, it is a broadcasting tradition indeed but in the day of 24 hour Television, I see very little point of doing so, mainly due to the fact BBC One really doesn't closedown anymore.
This I think is because now News 24 is nothing more than a short filler, I could understand if N24 started at 1.00am or so everynight, but in recent years it is becoming as late 4.30am, when there are very few people watching. But I don't see any harm in sticking it on before News 24.
When News 24 started it's overnight broadcasts on BBC One I seem to remember there was little or no mention of complaint in the general Media, it was probably the right thing to do in the interest of viewers. Why not show off the BBC's new News service overnight for interest and promotion as well as a Public service and to bring BBC One up as a 24 hour channel. It just didn't feel right in 1997 that BBC2, ITV, Channel 4 and the then very newly launched Channel 5 were all on the air 24 hours a day, BBC1 just looked rather old fashioned in that sense.
BBC Radio 4 is still regular as clockwork, 12.59am everyday, primarily because it's always 12.59am, something that will never be achieved on BBC One. But if the outcry of the axing of the station's UK Theme is anything to go by, if it was dropped from R4 then I would see outcry here aswell. Also because it's the only outlet to regularly broadcast it.
If they're thinking BBC1, why not ITV? Most Regions played it (well Thames, Granada and Central didn't to name a couple.) but again nothing was said with that axing.
This I think is because now News 24 is nothing more than a short filler, I could understand if N24 started at 1.00am or so everynight, but in recent years it is becoming as late 4.30am, when there are very few people watching. But I don't see any harm in sticking it on before News 24.
When News 24 started it's overnight broadcasts on BBC One I seem to remember there was little or no mention of complaint in the general Media, it was probably the right thing to do in the interest of viewers. Why not show off the BBC's new News service overnight for interest and promotion as well as a Public service and to bring BBC One up as a 24 hour channel. It just didn't feel right in 1997 that BBC2, ITV, Channel 4 and the then very newly launched Channel 5 were all on the air 24 hours a day, BBC1 just looked rather old fashioned in that sense.
BBC Radio 4 is still regular as clockwork, 12.59am everyday, primarily because it's always 12.59am, something that will never be achieved on BBC One. But if the outcry of the axing of the station's UK Theme is anything to go by, if it was dropped from R4 then I would see outcry here aswell. Also because it's the only outlet to regularly broadcast it.
If they're thinking BBC1, why not ITV? Most Regions played it (well Thames, Granada and Central didn't to name a couple.) but again nothing was said with that axing.
In the early days of ITV (when Granada covered the North) one meat-pie manufacturer in Sheffield apparently withdrew his advertising because Granada didn't play the National Anthem at closedown.
LO
No-one takes any notice of Early Day Motions. They have no bearing on anything, apart from gaining a bit of publicity for a cause.
pear posted:
how many names would they need to bring it back and also who would they have to go through to get it reinstalled.
also have they got enough power to make the bbc reuse it again or not?
also have they got enough power to make the bbc reuse it again or not?
TV
This is pretty much a no-go-area. Playing the anthem would probably offend minorities.
I do want this to become law, but very few EDMs go through...
RDJ posted:
Mind you they could very easily playout the National Anthem before they join News 24, It would be a nice touch I think.
Although they would probably have to create a more generic ident to play it out over. I don't think it would be very suitable to see Hippos swimming about whilst playing 'God Save the Queen'.
Although they would probably have to create a more generic ident to play it out over. I don't think it would be very suitable to see Hippos swimming about whilst playing 'God Save the Queen'.
This is pretty much a no-go-area. Playing the anthem would probably offend minorities.
I do want this to become law, but very few EDMs go through...
IS
This is pretty much a no-go-area. Playing the anthem would probably offend minorities.
No minorities are going to be offended (well except for some Irish republicans but they probably wouldn't get to hear it anyway) in the same way that no-one is offended in every other circumstance in which it is played
It's not going to happen though.
TVN posted:
This is pretty much a no-go-area. Playing the anthem would probably offend minorities.
No minorities are going to be offended (well except for some Irish republicans but they probably wouldn't get to hear it anyway) in the same way that no-one is offended in every other circumstance in which it is played
It's not going to happen though.
RD
One problem is none of the idents are long enough for it to be played over them, and they have no clock to use like they used to. The anthem was always used for closedown, showing that it is going off air for the night and handing over to the testcard. Now, there is no closedown. Yes, they do goto BBC News 24, but it's more of a filler programme than a closedown, in the same way ITV broadcast the nightscreen (and now goto ITV Play every night). Therefore, there's no need for it.
You've got to be joking? It would just be wrong on BBC Three, as it doesn't suit the channel format at all, dispite the fact it does closedown. It would work nicely on BBC Four however.
No, absolutely not - I can imagine the blobs standing round a flag, or something singing it - the channel controllers could have a bit of fun with it. For times around royal deaths, there could be a more sombre one, with just a still of the 'THREE', and the (what would be, if my idea were real) more formal 'BBC1'-track.
This shouldn't be law though. The idea of the state demanding patriosm sounds very N.S.D.A.P.-esque to me. Okay, it isn't the image of Tony Blair &c. on every classroom, but it is the top of a slippery slide.
Orry Verducci posted:
RDJ posted:
Mind you they could very easily playout the National Anthem before they join News 24, It would be a nice touch I think.
Although they would probably have to create a more generic ident to play it out over. I don't think it would be very suitable to see Hippos swimming about whilst playing 'God Save the Queen'.
Although they would probably have to create a more generic ident to play it out over. I don't think it would be very suitable to see Hippos swimming about whilst playing 'God Save the Queen'.
One problem is none of the idents are long enough for it to be played over them, and they have no clock to use like they used to. The anthem was always used for closedown, showing that it is going off air for the night and handing over to the testcard. Now, there is no closedown. Yes, they do goto BBC News 24, but it's more of a filler programme than a closedown, in the same way ITV broadcast the nightscreen (and now goto ITV Play every night). Therefore, there's no need for it.
Rob Del Monte posted:
Why not on BBC3?
You've got to be joking? It would just be wrong on BBC Three, as it doesn't suit the channel format at all, dispite the fact it does closedown. It would work nicely on BBC Four however.
No, absolutely not - I can imagine the blobs standing round a flag, or something singing it - the channel controllers could have a bit of fun with it. For times around royal deaths, there could be a more sombre one, with just a still of the 'THREE', and the (what would be, if my idea were real) more formal 'BBC1'-track.
This shouldn't be law though. The idea of the state demanding patriosm sounds very N.S.D.A.P.-esque to me. Okay, it isn't the image of Tony Blair &c. on every classroom, but it is the top of a slippery slide.
PA
The BBC could certainly do with a bit of formality to give the schedules better structure. Things like the national anthem, unintrusive idents, minimal (and well chosen) channel announcements, a clock etc allow programmes to be framed properly so that they stand on their own merits. (Is that why they don't want these things ?)
It does seem a bit late for MPs to be complaining, but if you've been involved in politics, you soon find out that most politicians are out of touch with day-to-day existence and need to have something presented directly to them for them to take notice and that, for them to act en masse, an issue has to be politically expedient. I expect the issue has been raised in the wake of Jack Straw's views on the veil and the subsequent debate about what the nation should and shouldn't tolerate, and what it should promote.
It does seem a bit late for MPs to be complaining, but if you've been involved in politics, you soon find out that most politicians are out of touch with day-to-day existence and need to have something presented directly to them for them to take notice and that, for them to act en masse, an issue has to be politically expedient. I expect the issue has been raised in the wake of Jack Straw's views on the veil and the subsequent debate about what the nation should and shouldn't tolerate, and what it should promote.
JR
From the clips I've seen, the globe always used to spin a bit slower at closedown each night - maybe this was because it had been spinning all day and the motor had slowed down a little? Or was I just seeing things?
Maybe if the part of the ident where the circle is formed could be played in slow-motion. I can see Kites working with this - a still, with a clock in the middle of the circle, followed by a wipe to the BBC1 logo, slow movement of the kites around the logo, and the national anthem being played - followed by a sixty-second countdown into News 24.
Maybe if the part of the ident where the circle is formed could be played in slow-motion. I can see Kites working with this - a still, with a clock in the middle of the circle, followed by a wipe to the BBC1 logo, slow movement of the kites around the logo, and the national anthem being played - followed by a sixty-second countdown into News 24.
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After which time most viewers will have flicked elsewhere.