Multicoloured Swap Shop Returns...

That was when it was towards the start of the show, but by the end it was very good (this is not including Showdown). The spelling competition disappeared way before the first revamp, and following that was just fun and light hearted games where they didn't try to be funny, but it worked and was entertaining.



I'd rather it wasn't in a subtle manner, because if it was it would be sometimes hard to notice. Stephen Mulhern was pathetic at them, but Holly was great particularly as they often exploited her sexual appeal to make some of them. Holly did do quite a few innuendos quite well such as this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofq1nfAlGzA

Both shows were just as good as eachother (as ratings will show in the last 6 months of 2005) so its down to a matter of opinion of which show is better. Its either 2 fully grown men running about acting like kids or a multi layered magazine show with a fit presenter.

Hmm, I guess the rude Rainbow clip had been doing the rounds again that week

That's the very definition of "subtle".

I don't think it's right for a kid to see Stephen Mulhern grinning eerily as he shouts "I've given Holly the horn!", mugging the 'gag' for all its worth.



That's brilliant - that's the kind of thing we need.



Ah, that'll be when Da Bungalow was being shunted around from BBC1 to BBC2 at whatever whim the channel controllers deemed necessary.



Multi-layered?

As for fully grown men acting like kids, well, it successfully worked for Tiswas.

So how does Mummy advise little Tommy when he sees Dominic Wood wearing his Morning Wood t shirt one morning or is that acceptable because its Dick N Dom so therefore nothing can go wrong with them.

Whats the point in that then? Aren't they supposed to be heard or seen easily rather than having to look around for them, especially with Saturday Morning TV being hangover TV for students as well as "kick start the weekend tv" for kids? I've read your argument for this on quite a few forums, and you always use that same one ... "Ive given Holly the horn".



Yes, multi-layered. Most of its features were aimed at everyone up to about the age of 30 in some kind of way, such as Cakey Sk8.

Kids- Want to see which celebrities are playing, how high they can get their cake, whether their fave celeb will win

Teenagers- Lads would like Holly dressed as a French maid, and to see the likes of Rachel Stevens get covered in cake.The girls would probably be interested in the celebrity aspect

Students- Pretty much male audience, same for lads section in teenagers as well as innuendos

Parents- Dads would be for Polly, and Mums would be for Stephen.

So there you see how one item can appeal to so many people in different ways.

"Morning Wood" is a reference 'Little Tommy' won't get. Chris Tarrant supported D&D against the complaint. Morning Wood is now the title of Dominic's production company. It's pretty daft anyone moaned about, considering what was said on another Saturday morning TV show a while back.

If Dom was to point at his shirt and eerily grin, saying "I've got morning wood!", then that would be wrong.

If you've ever written or studied comedy, you'd realise the concept of 'internal reward'. Hence why Chris Morris is a respected genius, and Bobby Davro is not.



So all Saturday morning comedy has to be at base level for it to be appreciated? Thank goodness Tiswas never took that route.



Yes, I have referred to it a number of times.



Cakey Sk8 never appealed to me when I saw it. Just looked like a desperate way of shoe-horning some trend into a rather duff slapstick segment.



It's mostly about the cake fight at the end though.



The French maid outfit was perfect eye candy on a Saturday morning. That's where you have a point.



There's still a line that you shouldn't cross when in kids' TV. While people can be satisfied with the amount of adult references they can sneak in on children's telly, the key demographic is children after all.

Viz is a great read, but I wouldn't use it as bedtime-story material.



Um, a colleague of mine knows Stephen, and, er, well, I suppose any maternal respect would have to be in the same way Graham Norton and Paul O'Grady are liked.



Well, I'm glad to be childless. If my kids ever watched Ministry Of Mayhem, I'd be hassled for all the latest toys and pop singles, which were incessantly plugged on the show. A reason for parents to switch over to BBC2! (Though TMi's only major let-down is the Heat z-lister guests who also try to flog their wares... grrr...)

I suppose a lot of them get these problems.Ministry of Mayhem wasn't a poor programme,it just had to battle a giant.And bringing back Tiswas wouldn't work because people would say it was either copying Dick and Dom or they wouldn't watch it because their parents did.Ministry of Mayhem would have a problem and by the time Dick and Dom ended it was about to end itself.

True - and half the problem was the budget cuts imposed by ITV. Absolute idiocy. Whilst I dislike Ministry Of Mayhem, I wish it was still around instead of the diabolical Anthony Worrall Tosspot rubbish that viewers had to endure, plus the current 'compromise' package of imported cartoons and a cheap gungy game-show.



Heh, definitely vice versa. The boys themselves have said that!

Tiswas ain't coming back as a series, but it is coming back to ITV1 as a one-off special - not on a Saturday morning, but on a Saturday night. It's been planned for well over two years so far...