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JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
He accounted for all of those.
EL
eladkse
The new rules would apply exactly the same to BBC Three as they have in positioning BBC Four in Scotland. It would take LCN 23, which is the highest number it could take while satisfying Ofcom’s PSB prominance rules.

The channel occupying LCN 23 would take LCN 25, and 25 onwards would shuffle down by one until they reach a gap.

BBC, like any other channel owner, would then further be permitted to shuffle their channels into whichever order they like - again subject to Ofcom’s prominance rules. Most likely moving one of the Scotish channels down to 23 to promote BBC Three.

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In the meantime, in the very unlikely event that a channel between LCNs 8 and 23 vacates, this would be given to BBC Four in Scotland.
RE
Rexogamer London London
So what will happen if BBC 3 returns, will it automatically get Channel 7 again?

I still think the most sensible thing with Freeview is to move all the channels starting with ITV 2 down a few slots, but keep the same order. That way the channels before 10 are the base for the locally available channels for your nation and will save confusion over what goes where. The rest of the channels can be on the same number across the UK (apart from NI / Manchester etc. that have extra channels which can slot in to shared numbers in the two areas).

06 - BBC Scotland (SCO) / S4C (WAL) / TG 4 (NI) / Local TV (ENG)
07 - BBC Alba (SCO) / NVTV (NI)
08 - ITV 2
09 - BBC 3
10 - BBC 4
11 - Pick
etc.
etc.


An answer to your question.
As channel 7 is a national slot (being used for Local TV in England and Northern Ireland, BBC Alba in Scotland and S4C in Wales), it is highly unlikely.

Slight correction: channel 7 is C4 in Wales, not S4C (which as the name says is on channel 4).
Arqiva, just switch to DVB-T2 already...
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Never quite understood why C4 ended up with 8 rather than 6 in Wales on Freeview.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
FJ
FelixJBAuk Granada North West Today
Never quite understood why C4 ended up with 8 rather than 6 in Wales on Freeview.

So that 6 is ITV2 nationwide instead of confusing the channel numbers everywhere and not just Wales?
ST
steveboswell Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Never quite understood why C4 ended up with 8 rather than 6 in Wales on Freeview.

Continuity from the ONdigital days, really. Because there was no hard switch from the free-to-air channels to Freeview™, there probably wasn't much incentive for anyone to boot ITV2 off channel 6.
GU
Gusan North Reporting Scotland
Ridiculous, although interesting ITV and C4 both supportive of the move, even if it does annoyingly move 4Seven to 4Eight. I don't know whether by accident or design but I always thought "ITV+1" being on 33 was quite clever too - and clearly ITV did too considering they could have pushed it up the EPG.

It won't happen because QVC and Ideal World seem to have too much power but the shopping channels should long have been bumped out of the general section and there are certainly enough film and "music" channels now for them to have their own section too. For some reason it's fine for PSB channels CBBC and BBC News to have been bumped from 30/40 originally on Freeview ultimately down to 201/231 in four steps along the way, but QVC seem to be locked into channel 16 for life, despite the Freeview of today being a very different platform to the Freeview of 2002.


Interestingly most the member of the public submissions agreed it should get a higher LCN but not with the solution, with solutions such as new genres and using BBC Studios owned Dave's slot proposed.

Chris Young gives the most details response on genres, basically echoing what I just said.
https://www.freeview.co.uk/sites/default/files/2020-09/chris-young-response-consultation-revised-rules-LCN-allocation-public-service-channels.pdf


It's worse than that. Originally BBC News was on LCN 11 and CBBC and CBeebies were on 12 and 13 when ITVDigital closed.
QVC took over LCN 19 from Shop! and was shuffled up to LCN 16

14 days later

MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
The Freeview Accessible TV Guide data stream has been added to PSB2 (D3&4) over the course of the last week on a region-by-region basis. Once live, it will be available on 555 on Freeview Play devices.
https://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=D3-AND-4-PSB2&liste=1&live=9&lang=en (SID 8601).


Meanwhile, the approximately 1.5Mbps "null" on COM5 shown in the bitrate graph near the bottom of the following page is the slot Sky Arts is taking tomorrow, filling up another multiplex for the first time since the fallout after Sony rearranged its services.
https://digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=ARQA-COM5&liste=1&live=9&lang=en
MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
Accessible TV Guide now assigned channel 55. It will be a HbbTV based service for Freeview Play devices.

Smithsonian has moved to 56, Together and Together +1 to 87 and 88, filling in gaps left behind by previous channel closures. Many more gaps to be filled, though!

Finally, the BBC Local Radio slates have been updated to reflect this week's branding changes. Not keen on the colour scheme!
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
BBC Four Scotland has moved up to 54 I think. What I don't get it why it can't go on 51 (not that it makes much difference), considering 51-53 are only used in NI.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
MI
TheMike Central (East) East Midlands Today
BBC Four Scotland has moved up to 54 I think. What I don't get it why it can't go on 51 (not that it makes much difference), considering 51-53 are only used in NI.

It's temporarily on 55 until November's move to 24 north of the border.
PF
PFMC84 UTV Newsline
BBC FOUR has a Scotland region? Since when?! Laughing

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