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JO
johnnyboy Founding member

Agreed, Steve. I am a BBC lover and always have been but this is not the type of activity they should be concentrating on right now.

Personally, I think BBC1 and 2 during the day should either show archive material, news, and educational/public service programme.

What nonsense, so it should stop doing what it's done for 32 years?

As everyone keeps saying whatever they're planning (and we don't know what the idea is) it won't be anything new. BBC daytime has always had a mix of lifestyle, factual and public service programmes and that's how it should be. I don't see that a daytime One Show would fall foul of that, it's a very worthy programme at the best of times


The BBC is not remembered or cherished for its daytime output - it never has been and it never will be.

It has been 32 years of middle-of-the-road, non-licence-fee-justifying dross for the main part.

It is better to divert the talent, funding, and resources to those areas for which the BBC is rightly revered.

Use the daytime to stick on archive material, news, and educational/public service programmes.

You obviously lack any sort of quality filter if you think, to paraphrase you, that "a daytime One Show would (be) a very worthy programme." Feel bad for you. Crying or Very sad
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IS
Inspector Sands
I mean The One Show is worthy in terms of content. It more than ticks the PSB box in the evenings so why not in the mornings?

No it's not exactly the jewel in it's output and yes a lot of it isn't fondly remembered but then it's had a lot of shows in daytime (and a fair few flops) unlike ITV which has had a few successful ones.

But thing is that their current format of daytime programmes is successful and gets better ratings. And it does that while offering an alternative including PSB content, which includes 'worthy' live stuff at 9:15
JO
johnnyboy Founding member
TBH, Inspector Sands, I don't personally believe that the One Show ticks the PSB box in the evenings either. It's a low budget, intellectually-flat, bland mishmash of Nationwide and Wogan.

On the daytime front, I can't remember which ITV executive said it but is there really a need for series 24 of Homes Under The Hammer or series 83 of Bargain Hunt?

The BBC is spreading itself too thin and, in an era of licence fee negotiations which I desperately want it to succeed in, it needs to focus on providing as much quality content as possible.

Stuff it can sell around the world for a fortune and stuff which excites the peoples of the UK.
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IS
Inspector Sands
TBH, Inspector Sands, I don't personally believe that the One Show ticks the PSB box in the evenings either. It's a low budget, intellectually-flat, bland mishmash of Nationwide and Wogan.

It fits the ethos of Educate, Inform and Entertain.

The topical packages and consumer items inform.
The feature packages educate.
The bits between them entertain.

It does all those things in an accessible way, while ticking the regional production box. It's not the most highbrow or exciting but its early evening BBC One and it does all the above to a decent audience 5 nights a week
NL
Ne1L C
TBH, Inspector Sands, I don't personally believe that the One Show ticks the PSB box in the evenings either. It's a low budget, intellectually-flat, bland mishmash of Nationwide and Wogan.

It fits the ethos of Educate, Inform and Entertain.

The topical packages and consumer items inform.
The feature packages educate.
The bits between them entertain.

It does all those things in an accessible way, while ticking the regional production box. It's not the most highbrow or exciting but its early evening BBC One and it does all the above to a decent audience 5 nights a week



Its worth pointing out that in its first incarnation it was a "Nationwide 2" with handover to the local news.
CA
Cando

Agreed, Steve. I am a BBC lover and always have been but this is not the type of activity they should be concentrating on right now.

Personally, I think BBC1 and 2 during the day should either show archive material, news, and educational/public service programme.

What nonsense, so it should stop doing what it's done for 32 years?

As everyone keeps saying whatever they're planning (and we don't know what the idea is) it won't be anything new. BBC daytime has always had a mix of lifestyle, factual and public service programmes and that's how it should be. I don't see that a daytime One Show would fall foul of that, it's a very worthy programme at the best of times


The BBC is not remembered or cherished for its daytime output - it never has been and it never will be.

It has been 32 years of middle-of-the-road, non-licence-fee-justifying dross for the main part.

It is better to divert the talent, funding, and resources to those areas for which the BBC is rightly revered.

Use the daytime to stick on archive material, news, and educational/public service programmes.

You obviously lack any sort of quality filter if you think, to paraphrase you, that "a daytime One Show would (be) a very worthy programme." Feel bad for you. Crying or Very sad


Classic tv forum. Make stuff I want to watch and ignore other viewers.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
On the daytime front, I can't remember which ITV executive said it but is there really a need for series 24 of Homes Under The Hammer or series 83 of Bargain Hunt?


Same argument could be said for Series 32 of This Morning or whatever we're up to... And I note ITV are (or were) sticking "S30 Ep 67" or whatever on the EPG entries for it too. And up until last year, 17 series of Jeremy Kyle and counting...
JO
johnnyboy Founding member
Cando posted:
What nonsense, so it should stop doing what it's done for 32 years?

As everyone keeps saying whatever they're planning (and we don't know what the idea is) it won't be anything new. BBC daytime has always had a mix of lifestyle, factual and public service programmes and that's how it should be. I don't see that a daytime One Show would fall foul of that, it's a very worthy programme at the best of times


The BBC is not remembered or cherished for its daytime output - it never has been and it never will be.

It has been 32 years of middle-of-the-road, non-licence-fee-justifying dross for the main part.

It is better to divert the talent, funding, and resources to those areas for which the BBC is rightly revered.

Use the daytime to stick on archive material, news, and educational/public service programmes.

You obviously lack any sort of quality filter if you think, to paraphrase you, that "a daytime One Show would (be) a very worthy programme." Feel bad for you. Crying or Very sad


Classic tv forum. Make stuff I want to watch and ignore other viewers.


My actual point went went way over your head. Sorry for your lack of comprehension.
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JO
johnnyboy Founding member
On the daytime front, I can't remember which ITV executive said it but is there really a need for series 24 of Homes Under The Hammer or series 83 of Bargain Hunt?


Same argument could be said for Series 32 of This Morning or whatever we're up to... And I note ITV are (or were) sticking "S30 Ep 67" or whatever on the EPG entries for it too. And up until last year, 17 series of Jeremy Kyle and counting...


Agreed. Neil, but ITV and other broadcasters don't enjoy the extraordinary privilege of being funded by a compulsory license fee.

I am a happy license fee payer and I want a world class BBC.

However, the BBC should back off from aggressively competing during times of the schedule when commercial rivals who are subject to taxation find it hardest to make money and attract an audience.
JO
Jonwo
The chances of BBC One replacing their daytime programmes with ancient repeats and educational shows is zero
LV
LondonViewer

However, the BBC should back off from aggressively competing during times of the schedule when commercial rivals who are subject to taxation find it hardest to make money and attract an audience.

Agreed.

Aping commercial broadcasters isn’t a recipe for licence fee success. Just another bullet for the detractors.
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JO
johnnyboy Founding member
Jonwo posted:
The chances of BBC One replacing their daytime programmes with ancient repeats and educational shows is zero


Alas, I agree, Jonwo.

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