TV Home Forum

Morning Live

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
PA
Parker
Another one of those idiotic decision which has nothing to do with programme presentation and everything to do with politics. The programme works fine where it is so lets make it difficult by moving it to a place where there's no readily available studios for it Rolling Eyes Drives programme producers mad
FL
Flux
Another one of those idiotic decision which has nothing to do with programme presentation and everything to do with politics. The programme works fine where it is so lets make it difficult by moving it to a place where there's no readily available studios for it Rolling Eyes Drives programme producers mad


There's no way they've just decided to "move" the programme without actually thinking about where it's actually going to come from. The discussions of possible studio options/ideas on this thread are only happening because it hasn't been publicly announced yet. I don't think anyone's actually under the assumption the BBC are only now starting to think where it could potentially be shot, or are blind enough to have announced the show is moving without first checking that there's a suitable studio/space it could use.

We also don't know whether the show has been working "fine where it is" (as you word it) from a studio sharing perspective. Yes it works on screen, but it's actually a big job to re-set every day for the One Show and then back again by the next day. I know other productions do it, but the BBC might have decided it would just work better to have a permanent standing set for Morning Live now they're committed to keeping it long term, and there's a space in Salford which has been earmarked for just that reason. It could be to allow for rehearsal time, or pre-records, or a whole host of other reasons.

Of course, there's always a chance it's only a political move. But I doubt even that wouldn't be done without first giving some thought to practicalities.
EG
eggsontoast
Flux posted:
There's no way they've just decided to "move" the programme without actually thinking about where it's actually going to come from.

Actually, in the BBC this is entirely possible - there's probably a task force working on this right now and the outcome will be they'll have to throw some more money at it.
SW
Steve Williams
Another one of those idiotic decision which has nothing to do with programme presentation and everything to do with politics. The programme works fine where it is so lets make it difficult by moving it to a place where there's no readily available studios for it Rolling Eyes Drives programme producers mad


The Beeb in the past would never have broadcast a daytime show from somewhere other than a studio. Imagine how ridiculous it would have been to do a show from the reception of BBC Birmingham!
BR
Brekkie
Same as the Winter Olympic space posted earlier I think.
AD
adamiow
It may well have been the plan to move the show to Salford if it was successful from the start and that the use of The One Show studio was always planned to be temporary solution.
PA
Parker
Another one of those idiotic decision which has nothing to do with programme presentation and everything to do with politics. The programme works fine where it is so lets make it difficult by moving it to a place where there's no readily available studios for it Rolling Eyes Drives programme producers mad


The Beeb in the past would never have broadcast a daytime show from somewhere other than a studio. Imagine how ridiculous it would have been to do a show from the reception of BBC Birmingham!

As usual we have deliberate misinterpretation of posts on here. Just as I thought people were actually listening to reasoned argument. Oh well.
MO
Mort
What was that space they used for the athletics championships that was only a few years ago and they turned the set all tropical, I swear that was in Salford.


Spot on harshy, same as PyeongChang (https://www.newscaststudio.com/2018/02/20/bbc-olympics-2018/) -- http://www.johhn.co.uk/page20.html has all the photos you probably remember for Gold Coast 2018 Commonwealth Gams. JOHHN Design oversaw that impressive set up. And yes, all the plants were real Smile
MO
Mort
Flux posted:
Another one of those idiotic decision which has nothing to do with programme presentation and everything to do with politics. The programme works fine where it is so lets make it difficult by moving it to a place where there's no readily available studios for it Rolling Eyes Drives programme producers mad


There's no way they've just decided to "move" the programme without actually thinking about where it's actually going to come from. The discussions of possible studio options/ideas on this thread are only happening because it hasn't been publicly announced yet. I don't think anyone's actually under the assumption the BBC are only now starting to think where it could potentially be shot, or are blind enough to have announced the show is moving without first checking that there's a suitable studio/space it could use.

We also don't know whether the show has been working "fine where it is" (as you word it) from a studio sharing perspective. Yes it works on screen, but it's actually a big job to re-set every day for the One Show and then back again by the next day. I know other productions do it, but the BBC might have decided it would just work better to have a permanent standing set for Morning Live now they're committed to keeping it long term, and there's a space in Salford which has been earmarked for just that reason. It could be to allow for rehearsal time, or pre-records, or a whole host of other reasons.

Of course, there's always a chance it's only a political move. But I doubt even that wouldn't be done without first giving some thought to practicalities.


The Beeb is so large sometimes you get cases of split brain. Don't exclude the possibility that BBC Studios Productions (who produce Morning Live) may have been thinking about this for a while but are still at high level discussions. I guess it depends on desired timeframe and whether budget is available as capex or opex. Whatever happens, it's encouraging news.

"Based in Salford" has scope for interpretation. The press release specifies a timeframe of 'January next year' for Morning Live starting to come from Salford, so there's options.

Alongside in-house facilities, Salford has flexibly used Dock10 since day 1. Childrens studios are homed in HQ5 (CBBC and CBeebies presentation, Newsround, Bitesize Daily from HQ7 and Live Lessons - though some also came from Manchester Studios, the old Granada complex on Lower Byrom Street). And not forgetting Blue Peter (HQ7/HQ3). HQ7 has become a regular studio for Final Score / MOTD. Dock10's also going to be used for other output this year. BBC and Dock10 have history!

One small Sport studio in Quay House was recently fitted out for VR, but I'd be very surprised if that ended up shared with daytime. The Breakfast studio might be more appropriate - a decent space, much of it is unused, probably due to shape and current set design, but that's also an opportunity. Either way that set needs an update and new kit. It would be very good to see a refreshed look for the Breakfast set which could accommodate Morning Live if they decided to hot-seat.

As it stands, the major infrastructure, bar the aforementioned studio, was installed when MediaCityUK was built, nearing a decade old. I'll be interested to see what happens, particularly as Tim Davie's speech last week included renewed emphasis on more and new programmes originating from Salford, and an increase in staff and budget for regional investment. https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/speeches/2021/across-the-uk
MarkT76, Parker and Matrix gave kudos
BR
Brekkie
I would say Morning Live starting straight after Breakfast probably means them sharing the space is unlikely, especially as once things finally return to normal they'll likely have contributors they need to prep within the set before going live.

I think Morning Live needs a real set, which if space allowed could be an adapted news set, unlike Breakfast who frustratingly could just stick a sofa in practically any other set the BBC uses at Salford and look instantly better.
harshy and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Also the Breakfast/NWT studio is set up for news, using Mosart automation. That could be limiting for other more general programme making.
DO
dosxuk
Maybe Morning Live could come from be Liverpool, somewhere down by the docks possibly?

Newer posts