Mistakes - General - any programme

More accurately - Thomson Technicolor - who have taken over management and operation of ITV Playout South - formerly known as LNN - in London (still at LWT AIUI) and ITV Playout North in Leeds (still at Yorkshire) AIUI.

It is live! The update on the news channel comes from the other weather studio, whilst the main one is in use for the BBC One bulletin.

Lol another BBC weather presenter being stroppy, has their pay been dropped?

They are all quite stroppy aren't they?

They have every right to be stroppy considering AIUI all the effort they put in to preparing their forecasts.

Not necesarily. The ITV1 on the router is 16:9, and the interview was coming from a 4:3 studio (hence the 14:9 pillarboxing), therefore it was being routed into an ARC before being routed into the studio (as a 'News Package').

So if ITV1 was routed into that ARC by accident then that would have been double ARCd, hence the thin Esther Rantzen

Only BBC Two? I was under the impression RED BEE handled playout for all BBC Channels.

They do handle playout for all BBC channels (except for BBC Parliament), I think noggin was just ruling out Red Bee in how they could have been responsible and mentioned BBC Two as that is the channel that Working Lunch is broadcast on.

I think Julie Etchingham's extermination comment deserves a mention

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac9uWUPxqKs

Sorry - you are wrong on that score - which is why I was specifically talking about the "standard" ITV1 feed on the router.

The standard ITV1 off-air feed on the SCAR router is a 14P16 ARCed version of a 4:3 analogue off-air feed (complete with ghosting) - NOT 16F16. If you watch ITV1 sport pictures on a BBC News bulleting you'll notice the ghosting... You'll also notice that even when a match is covered in 16:9 (as most are) the news pictures are a 14:9 pillarbox of a 4:3 centre cut (as shown on analogue).

The source cut up during Working Lunch was a 16F16 feed of ITV1 (you can see when it is cut full frame) that had been ARCed to 14P16, not a 4:3 original raster that has been 14P16 ARCed twice - which would have been the case if the standard SCAR TV1 off-air feed had been routed into the ARC feeding that News Package.

It is, of course, possible that a DSat or DTT receiver that happened also to be tuned to ITV1 was routed to the input of the news package - though my money is on the switch happening upstream.



But the feed cut up full frame has only been single-ARCed (i.e. passed through a single ARC) - it was a 16F16 feed that had been passed through 14P16 ARC (obviously needlessly).

The pillarbox bars would have been bigger if it had been double-ARCed (i.e. a 4:3 feed passed through two consecutive 14P16 ARCs) - as this gives you 12P16 width pillarbox bars.

(Or were you using the phrase "Double ARCed" in the sloppy newsroom manner that News 24 used to use - meaning any material that was tall and thin because it had been ARCed when it shouldn't have been - dating back to the days when everything was shot 4:3 apart from the studio cameras, so all external material had to be ARCed once, so if it was tall and thin it had been "Double ARCed")

Where was the actual remote studio ? I assume at Nationwide's HQ. If so, it might well have been at switching error at a Telco. Arqiva and/or BT probably have ITV contribution and distribution feeds in their system, and one of them would have been routing Nationwide's studio to the Beeb.

BT famously got their wires crossed many years ago in Cardiff, and got the four channels muddled up on the feeds to Wenvoe for a few seconds.

what about when programmes are canceled for rolling news events such as This Morning comming off the air when Labour leader John Smith died in 1994