Missing Presentation thread

Comments from people if possible: I have tried to speak with HAR10110289 he seem very non committal. I tried via some spare moments to merge these lists, I have taken out the stuff that has been found... I let some other things go but some were still highly questionable and silly. Everything is in here but i would like a view of other members if possible, especially with the bottom bit.

THIS IS NOT A REQUEST or NEED THREAD... Certain clips are on TVARK so your just have to wait, if your after them...

Things not included are:
* Grampian Promos style from mid 90s, there used the network versions:
* Central logo on the ITV logo from 1989 ident (seen on Twitter) thats not missing: There all on line but you need say which one your on about?? this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_FFkatN4ro&ab_channel=JX866Mashups
* 2w Heros ident. Why would a welsh block broadcast the us drama?
* RTE and TV3 in video This user has stuff: https://www.youtube.com/user/killianm2/ If you can come back with more refine idea?


ITV NETWORK
The following are from the 2002-2004 set, Stills can be viewed on TV Room but not videos
* 1999 Hearts: Swimming
* Simon Cowell (2DTV Version)
* Mark Rhodes ident (v1 and v2)
* Michelle McManus ident (v1 and v2)
* Emma Atkins ident (v1 and v2)
* Generic ident 2002 (v1 and v2)
* Lynam and McCoist (2003 and 2002 Christmas)
* Emma Atkins/Jeff Hordley ident (V1)
* Patrick Mower/Emily Symons/Chris Chittell ident
* David Harewood ident
* Little Ant and Dec ident
* Davina McCall ident (February v2 ONLY)

* Sombre ident (2004 or 2005)
* 2015 ITV Swimmers going back into the sea; Where still very unclear about this one:

UTV - THE clips ARE on TVARK Expect:
* Davina McCall ident (Version 2)

STV
* Main Scotland Today titles 1989-1990,
* NOTE: the pink 1985-1986 titles could be in HQ.
* 1989 Scottish TV xmas Ident
* FULL version of the Scottish TV 96-00 ident with Different more dramatic longer music.
* Three old men 2000 ident 30 secs version STV or GTV The other have turned up on Viemo.

Grampian:
* North tonight 1980, 1983, 1986 and 1989. Titles
* Celebrity love Island 2002

STV:
* 2009 South parks: Stills are on TVLIVE but no video.

Granada
* Granada Christmas presentation from 1993 and 1997
* Granada: Sketch - A canvass with a G Arrow drawn with crayons 96-99.

Central
* Central news west 1993: Green - blue look just like the 1991 but with different colours
* Central ident via a Billboard.
* Rainbow Confetti ident
* FULL 2min Let's Get Together in HQ
* Central news west 1993: Green - blue look just like the 1991 but with different colours
* Face/drama Ident from 1993/94 pic here: https://www.tvlive.website/media/inthepast/central/1990/central_1994_ident_faceblue_04.jpg

* A number of Central ( Carlton esq) idents from 98-99 are missing It's unclear which ones are:

Carlton - London
Im lead to believe there may be stuff appear in relation to the Carlton media, Keep a close eye on them.

* There ONLY 7 straight idents from Set no3 from 1993 ident version: * The magician", "Kung fu" , Body builders, Gemini Twirlers, Elizabeth II, Maria Louisa and Solariss.

* A lot of the Programme idents from 1996-1999 in video are not around at the moment, which includes: Home and Away, corrie, Carlton Country, Peak practice, Videotech, Word game, Custard Pie, Clowning ident, Vortex, Gold Searchlights. Morning ident.

Channel Television
Noted the following is in connection with the 2002-2004 set,
* Kevin Pamplin ident
* Cove ident
* Pathway/Cove ident
* Rocks ident
* Fort ident
* Yachts ident
* Fort/Town ident
* House on Cliffs ident
* ITV1 ident
* Fern Britton ident (V1 AND V2)
* Jim Rosenthal ident (V1 AND V2)
* Chris Tarrant ident
* Harbour ident
* Beach ident
* Generic ident (1998)
* Wendy Craig ident (V1 and V2)


BBC
BBC 2
1991:
* Pop Art ident

1992
* Edinburgh Nights ident
* Rembrandt

1993
* Shakespeare ident

2000
* X Files Ident (stills are around for No2, nothing for No3) -
* BBC 2W idents (Christmas 2005, 2007 and 2008) are all missing as well as the Heroes ident with the box logo on)

BBC Choice
* Trumpet ident (1998) the full version still need to be find

BBC One:
* The Ben Elton Show Version ident: Destroying Grey Abbey and In Space.
* Wales final balloon closedown (March 29th 2002)

BBC HD mid 2006 to late 2007.
* Interlude.


Channel 4 brand:
Channel 4:
* 'Look Who's Talking' season ident (September 1994)
* 'Reel Women' season ident (circa early 1995 - a programme entry is also listed on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289382/)

S4C:
Can be viewed here, but I have no idea what is actually missing.. http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forums/post885946#post-885946

E4:
A number of the early idents are around in Pic/stills but the videos are missing.


CHANNEL 5
* Kate McIntyre (The Core) ident (1999)
* Milkshake (Lucy Alexander) ident (1999)
* RAD ident (1999)
* Leslie Grantham (Sitting alone on the sofa without any friends) ident (2000)
* Unscheduled news report still ident (2002)
* Blue ident (silent) (2002)


SKY and Cable Channels
* Sky+ Demonstration in full (2001)
* Sky Guide and Sky+ Demonstration (2003 and 2006)

(UK Gold)
* UK Ginger: Stills are on TV-Live, not videos of them.
* 2007 Space hoppers: Still are on TV room

Living:
* Break bumpers used during the 90s.
* Living TV Ident from 2000-2001 Before the rebrand to Living
* Ident from 2004 and 2006.

Challenge TV
* Idents and continuity: 2003-2004
* Full version of Best of british from 2006-08


Kids Channels

Discovery Kids UK
* Continuity idents. 2002 - 2007, there are some pieces on TV ark but again its unclear if what here is not missing?

Disney Channel Idents
* Spring ident * Space Bubbles ident * Cake ident * Planet ident * Dog and Butterfly ident * Liquid Lightbulb ident * Christmas Wreath ident * Christmas Slope ident * Paint Palette ident * Smash ident (used on Toon Disney) * Spiral ident * 1995 Christmas Ident * Tennis Ball ident * Grapes ident * Gold and Blue ident
* Red and Orange ident * The Lion King ident * Pebbles ident * Strawberries on Bowls ident * Moon ident
* Football ident * Herbie the car ident * Paint Splat ident (Alternate Version) * Popcorn ident (Better Quality)
* Pie Splat ident (maybe was on Playhouse Disney or Toon Disney) * 2D Circles ident (used on Playhouse Disney) * Nest ident (used on Playhouse Disney; better audio)

Nickelodeon
Some of the break bumpers and invsion is missing.

Tiny Pop
* Idents and continuity, from 2004-2007


ADVERTS
* VIC: Of course you can Malcolm
* Bank of Scotland Adverts from 1999 - 2008 including BOS Howard versions.
* Sky Digital promo. Big red.
* Monster Munch advert (Dave Benson Phillips appeals)
* Cadbury’s Dream Advert
* Walt Disney World advert - 2006.
* Walt Disney World UK advert 2003 (Feel the magic and Sara, are you asleep? saying)



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The following are proper request, because a good number of them are of actually programmes etc. which should not be in this thread:
Does other people agree with this? Do you think it should be kept out?

CBeebies:
Chris and Sue use their pretend ants to crawl on their trousers (2002)
Pingu link with Chris and Sue have a party on the studio (2002)
Teletubbies link with Sid and Sue where Sue scares Sid with a sparkly spider (2002)
Ben playing a piggy game with The Cbeebies Baby, Evangeline (2015)

Milkshake:
* Hannah Williams sings Incy Wincy Spider clip (2006)
* Naomi Wilkinson sings Incy Wincy Spider on the Beach clip (Summer 2006)

Sky One:
* Blockbusters Promo (2000)

Grampian
Clips from 29th MAY 2006.

Challenge TV
* Alex Lovell and Bradley Walsh doing continuity links from 2002.

Playhouse Disney in video
* Monty Mole (The one where he is looking at something with a magnifying glass)
* Paws
* Bite Size
* Circle Time
* Dave and Alex (The one where they are decorating a blue cake)
* PJ's Bedtime
* PJ's Storytime
* Clips from 2003 to 2006.

HTV Weather Sponsors (Swalec)
Bit of a blow
Cold Snap
girl watching a boy messing about with a hose
An Absolute shower
Wet and Windy

no view for the above? Anyways Here is LOVE weekend from Ch4

Blues and Twos (ITV,1990s)

CBeebies:
Chris and Sue use their pretend ants to crawl on their trousers (2002)
Pingu link with Chris and Sue have a party on the studio (2002)
Teletubbies link with Sid and Sue where Sue scares Sid with a sparkly spider (2002)
Ben playing a piggy game with The Cbeebies Baby, Evangeline (2015)

Milkshake:
* Hannah Williams sings Incy Wincy Spider clip (2006)
* Naomi Wilkinson sings Incy Wincy Spider on the Beach clip (Summer 2006)

Sky One:
* Blockbusters Promo (2000)

Grampian
Clips from 29th MAY 2006.

Challenge TV
* Alex Lovell and Bradley Walsh doing continuity links from 2002.

Playhouse Disney in video
* Monty Mole (The one where he is looking at something with a magnifying glass)
* Paws
* Bite Size
* Circle Time
* Dave and Alex (The one where they are decorating a blue cake)
* PJ's Bedtime
* PJ's Storytime
* Clips from 2003 to 2006.

HTV Weather Sponsors (Swalec)
Bit of a blow
Cold Snap
girl watching a boy messing about with a hose
An Absolute shower
Wet and Windy

I want to put on that list please! pretty please!

Ok, a few points: as a smarter person said you need patience of a saint in this thread Im trying to say neutral with the programme request... so it will really be up the other member to give some views if Programmes should be added to the more TV pres list.

* If Worzel get to add Blues and Twos, then HAR10110289 would also have to be included. fairs fair.
* Grampian Clips from 29th MAY 2006: what is so special? it was just like any other day even the very last jct it was bla and here's GMTV.
* You really want those programme clips, and asking in this thread might not be the best way to achieve you goal? If the other members/mods/gods say yes to programmes then there can be added at the bottom of any main list. Lets see what people think........

As you're the only person who understands this thread I think it's up to you to decide what should be in it

I was always under the impression this thread was about missing presentation, including perhaps promo styles but not individual promos. And certainly not programmes, adverts, PIFs etc.

If everyone is free to add a missing tv series, episode, cartoon, advert to the list it will become impossible to manage, as such a list is (virtually) endless.

There is a place for discussion of “lost” tv shows but I don’t think it is this thread.

Indeed. Some of this stuff 'missing', that if found, is of no historical value, that even I'd be first to offer to feed the tapes into the bulk eraser.

It's slightly worrying, that in the unlikely event of the UK coming back in the first doom shades of a post nuclear holocaust, some people on here would be more worried about finding that junction between Emmerdale and Coronation Street on Grampian in 1994 because 'I think that was the only time they played that ident', instead of finding fresh water to drink.

I have been fair and asked what others for their views etc and it's pretty clear the programmes can not be included in this thread. Its need to draw a line so we can move forward, I have also edited the name of the thread to make it even clearer if we dont as Si-Co
said it will become unmanageable. HAR10110289 There nothing stopping you creating a new thread for missing programmes clips ( I dare say it will need to be request section) That in itself should help resolve you point asking for help.

I did check the below list with a few people around the site and there all give their thumbs up on the following:

ITV NETWORK
The following are from the 2002-2004 set, Stills can be viewed on TV Room but not videos
* 1999 Hearts: Swimming
* Simon Cowell (2DTV Version)
* Mark Rhodes ident (v1 and v2)
* Michelle McManus ident (v1 and v2)
* Emma Atkins ident (v1 and v2)
* Generic ident 2002 (v1 and v2)
* Lynam and McCoist (2003 and 2002 Christmas)
* Emma Atkins/Jeff Hordley ident (V1)
* Patrick Mower/Emily Symons/Chris Chittell ident
* David Harewood ident
* Little Ant and Dec ident
* Davina McCall ident (February v2 ONLY)
* Sombre ident (2004 or 2005)
* 2015 ITV Swimmers going back into the sea; Where still very unclear about this one:

UTV - THE clips ARE on TVARK Expect:
* Davina McCall ident (Version 2)

STV
* 1989 Scottish TV xmas Ident
* 1997 Scottish TV Xmas Ident - WITH MUSIC ....
* FULL version of the Scottish TV 96-00 ident with Different more dramatic longer music. In Full...
* Three old men 2000 ident 30 secs version STV or GTV The other have turned up on Viemo.

STV:
* 2009 South parks: Stills are on TVLIVE but no video.

Granada
* Granada Christmas presentation from 1997
* Granada: Sketch - A canvass with a G Arrow drawn with crayons 96-99.

Central
* Central ident via a Billboard.
* Rainbow Confetti ident
* Face/drama Ident from 1993/94 pic, its possible there also other versions not seen yet.
* A number of Central ( Carlton esq) idents from 98-99 are missing It's unclear which ones are:

Carlton - London
EDITED:
* 1994-1996: There ONLY 6 straight idents from Set no3 from 1994 ident version:
** Bodybuilders, Belly dancers, , escape artist, Drummers, Ballroom dancers.
** 2nd Versions of the following: * Cheerleaders * Hospital team * Chinese Dragons * Escapologist

* 1996-1999: A lot of the Programme idents in video are not around at the moment, which includes: Home and Away, corrie, Carlton Country, Peak practice, Videotech, Word game, Custard Pie, Clowning ident, Vortex, Gold Searchlights. Morning ident.

Channel Television
Noted the following is in connection with the 2002-2004 set,
* Kevin Pamplin ident
* Cove ident
* Pathway/Cove ident
* Rocks ident
* Fort ident
* Yachts ident
* Fort/Town ident
* House on Cliffs ident
* ITV1 ident
* Fern Britton ident (V1 AND V2)
* Jim Rosenthal ident (V1 AND V2)
* Chris Tarrant ident
* Harbour ident
* Beach ident
* Generic ident (1998)
* Wendy Craig ident (V1 and V2)


BBC
BBC 2
1991:
* Pop Art ident

1992
* Edinburgh Nights ident
* Rembrandt in full

1993
* Shakespeare ident

2000
* X Files Ident (stills are around for No2, nothing for No3) -
* BBC 2W idents (Christmas 2005, 2007 and 2008) are all missing as well as the Heroes ident with the box logo on)

BBC Choice
* Trumpet ident (1998) the full version still need to be find

BBC One:
* The Ben Elton Show Version ident: Destroying Grey Abbey and In Space.
* Wales final balloon closedown (March 29th 2002)

BBC HD mid 2006 to late 2007.
* Interlude.

Channel 4 brand:
Channel 4:
* 'Look Who's Talking' season ident (September 1994)
* 'Reel Women' season ident (circa early 1995 - a programme entry is also listed on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289382/)

S4C:
Can be viewed here, but I have no idea what is actually missing.. http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forums/post885946#post-885946

E4:
A number of the early idents are around in Pic/stills but the videos are missing.

CHANNEL 5
* Kate McIntyre (The Core) ident (1999)
* Milkshake (Lucy Alexander) ident (1999)
* RAD ident (1999)
* Leslie Grantham (Sitting alone on the sofa without any friends) ident (2000)
* Unscheduled news report still ident (2002)
* Blue ident (silent) (2002)

(UK Gold)
* UK Ginger: Stills are on TV-Live, not videos of them.
* 2007 Space hoppers: Half the idents in video form are missing but Still are on TV room

Living:
* Ident from 2004 and 2006.

Challenge TV
* Idents and continuity: 2003-2004
* Full version of Best of british from 2006-08

Kids Channels
Discovery Kids UK
* Continuity idents. 2002 - 2007, there are some pieces on TV ark but again its unclear if what here is not missing?

Disney Channel Idents
* Spring ident * Space Bubbles ident * Cake ident * Planet ident * Dog and Butterfly ident * Liquid Lightbulb ident * Christmas Wreath ident * Christmas Slope ident * Paint Palette ident * Smash ident (used on Toon Disney) * Spiral ident * 1995 Christmas Ident * Tennis Ball ident * Grapes ident * Gold and Blue ident
* Red and Orange ident * The Lion King ident * Pebbles ident * Strawberries on Bowls ident * Moon ident
* Football ident * Herbie the car ident * Paint Splat ident (Alternate Version) * Popcorn ident (Better Quality)
* Pie Splat ident (maybe was on Playhouse Disney or Toon Disney) * 2D Circles ident (used on Playhouse Disney) * Nest ident (used on Playhouse Disney; better audio)

Nickelodeon
Some of the break bumpers and invsion is missing.

Tiny Pop
* Idents and continuity, from 2004-2007

IT seems CArlton The magician hasn't been missing for 5 years ..........

Sorry, I know this is not a request thread... But, was their not a 2003 ITV1 London ident that is missing?

Did Carlton make a local ident for London? Can you describe it? I though only central had them.