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Michael Green forced to resign from ITV

(October 2003)

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LU
Luke
boring_user_name posted:
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You just keep on contradicting yourself. The News at Nine was popular because of the event it was specially based on. People aren't gonna make special plans to tune into it for everyday, mundane news.


How can you state that it was popular only because of the event? Neither you, I, nor anyone else will ever know what could've happened if they had kept it. I was just speculating that itv's nightly news programme could have been more successful if it was regularly screened at 9:00.
Please tell me why a large amount of viewers watched it at 9:00 during the war but not after it? Also, how am I contradicting myself?

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Plus, it would cut into ITV's prestigous 9pm slot, where they normally get the most viewers.


Possibly. But it could have generated more viewers at other times. For example, it would have freed the post 9:30 schedule for films, and other feature length stuff. Also, it would have enabled the network to move the evening news to an earlier time, thus again freeing another part of the schedule, from 6-9, for even more prime time programming.
Finally, it would certainly provide viewers with far more choice than is currently available, in that a news programme would be avaliable at 9:00 on itv, and also at 10:00 on BBC 1.


Because viewing figures prove it , check the MediaGuaurdian archive if you don't believe me. ITV/ITN have already settled on a new 10.30 slot, so dramas and films should be able to fit in fine. Wh would the network want to move the evening news? Viewing figures have improved for 6.30.
FA
fanoftv
CPFC posted:

Because viewing figures prove it , check the MediaGuaurdian archive if you don't believe me. ITV/ITN have already settled on a new 10.30 slot, so dramas and films should be able to fit in fine. Wh would the network want to move the evening news? Viewing figures have improved for 6.30.


Not many films will fit in, along with adverts and have it still starting on time. And what will they do with things like the Frank Skinner Show? At the moment it is on after the news at 22:30, and goes on till 23:20, so if it started at 22:00, then the news would be pushed back to 22:50, and if they pushed frank back, it would start at 21:40! Unless they put a half hour programme before it followed by creature comforts or something!
CO
Corin
Is this a thread to discuss the resignation of Michael Green or a thread to discuss at what time ITN News at When should be shewn?

If the latter, then would somebody please change the thread title!
FA
fanoftv
Why can't people discuss all? Threads do change, but by quoting someone, or posting a comment on michael grade, it can go back.
LU
Luke
fanoftv posted:
CPFC posted:

Because viewing figures prove it , check the MediaGuaurdian archive if you don't believe me. ITV/ITN have already settled on a new 10.30 slot, so dramas and films should be able to fit in fine. Wh would the network want to move the evening news? Viewing figures have improved for 6.30.


Not many films will fit in, along with adverts and have it still starting on time. And what will they do with things like the Frank Skinner Show? At the moment it is on after the news at 22:30, and goes on till 23:20, so if it started at 22:00, then the news would be pushed back to 22:50, and if they pushed frank back, it would start at 21:40! Unless they put a half hour programme before it followed by creature comforts or something!


They might start films at 8.30, and Frank Skinner may have ended by then, or moved to the weekend when the Premiership ends.

Anyway, it's inevitable that this thread will drift as we talk about Green's failings at ITV.
CO
Corin
fanoftv posted:
Why can't people discuss all? Threads do change, but by quoting someone, or posting a comment on michael grade, it can go back.

I did post a comment about Michael Green, but the petty bickering about News at When, which I would very much encourage you to discuss in a dedicated thread, continued unabated. Is it so hard to create a new thread to discuss the failings of News at When? And would it not make it easier for people to find who are interested in discussing the topic. thereby resulting in more contributions, rather than burying it in a thread about Michael Green and the consequences of his resignation?
LU
Luke
Corin posted:
fanoftv posted:
Why can't people discuss all? Threads do change, but by quoting someone, or posting a comment on michael grade, it can go back.

I did post a comment about Michael Green, but the petty bickering about News at When, which I would very much encourage you to discuss in a dedicated thread, continued unabated. Is it so hard to create a new thread to discuss the failings of News at When? And would it not make it easier for people to find who are interested in discussing the topic. thereby resulting in more contributions, rather than burying it in a thread about Michael Green and the consequences of his resignation?


Since when did you become forum admin? As I said, it was an unintentional result of myself and boring_user_name discussing Green's c**k-ups at ITV.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Was Michael Green as the boss of Carlton, personally responsible for 'News at When'? Isn't that the responsibility of the ITV Network controller, which was David Liddiment at the time?
LU
Luke
Andrew posted:
Was Michael Green as the boss of Carlton, personally responsible for 'News at When'? Isn't that the responsibility of the ITV Network controller, which was David Liddiment at the time?


...which is the point I posted on the first page, leading us to the point we are now!
NW
nwtv2003
It's good to see him getting the boot IMO, lets hope that there won't be another ITV Digital situation with the new ITV, as ITVD was Michael Green's fault.

Though as it has been said for now this will make relatively little difference to the ITV we are seeing at the moment, if there was to be any change it wouldn't be until 2005, as that is when he is expected to leave Carlton. Plus whatever has been made for now and into 2004 has been made with the current budget. The new ITV plc won't be comissioning programmes for sometime yet, even with their extra £50,000,000. Frankly it won't affect most of us as it is really Nigel Pickard's decision over ITV1 as he decides the programmes and don't forget Granada and Carlton don't make everything for ITV1, they're just a bunch of regional production and transmission companies put together.

Though it won't affect me I guess, as I am in a GR/N/D/ region.
:-(
A former member
I am not sad to see Michael Green go. His success over the years was to take over successful companies, then assett strip them, and making many talented people redundant. Perhaps the greatest error by the Authorities was to allow Carlton to take the franchise from Thames TV. I can only think of about two good programs that Carlton have ever made!!
About the only new initiative that he presided over was the formation of ITV DIGITAL, and that lost a fortune for the company. So why was he still in that position after that catastrophy??--- In persuite of substantial savings afterwards, we have seen countless skilled and dedicated staff being made redundant by his company.
I dare say that he will pick up a substantial severance payment along with a Pension, something denied to Carlton emploees of late.
AS
Aston
Rugby Wax posted:
I Perhaps the greatest error by the Authorities was to allow Carlton to take the franchise from Thames TV. I can only think of about two good programs that Carlton have ever made!!


Yesterdays Evening Standard had an article entitled "The men who ruined ITV", basically saying the same thing!

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